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Jaww 08-08-2020 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by flyforever1970 (Post 3105943)
Thanks, that's what I thought, but I read the section but it's not clear if this is 23K (middle of trip)or reroute before sign in. All this is so incredibly hard to follow now that the company is doing whatever it wants with these schedules!

Same thing happened to me. Just make sure you call accommodations and tell them you want a hotel otherwise they default to you not having one.

Jaww 08-09-2020 09:52 AM

Here’s another one. I had a 4 day awarded for my bid. They subsequently cancelled a turn and changed the rotation weeks ago. Today they made it 23K with recovery. Isn’t that double 23K?

DWC CAP10 USAF 08-09-2020 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3107344)
Here’s another one. I had a 4 day awarded for my bid. They subsequently cancelled a turn and changed the rotation weeks ago. Today they made it 23K with recovery. Isn’t that double 23K?

Did you acknowledge the first change when they CNX'd the turn?

Jaww 08-09-2020 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3107357)
Did you acknowledge the first change when they CNX'd the turn?

Yes. Scheduling said that was a “schedule adjustment.”

DWC CAP10 USAF 08-09-2020 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3107361)
Yes. Scheduling said that was a “schedule adjustment.”

If you ACK'd the first time, and it changed again, that would be double 23K, which is only allowed IAW 23.K.1.d.3 Note 2

Jaww 08-09-2020 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3107437)
If you ACK'd the first time, and it changed again, that would be double 23K, which is only allowed IAW 23.K.1.d.3 Note 2

That is what I thought, tried to explain, and was told I was wrong. I am waiting to call ALPA tomorrow to see if I missed something before I press the issue. Trip is on the 12th so I have time. But extra pay is good too.

hockeypilot44 08-09-2020 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3107439)
That is what I thought, tried to explain, and was told I was wrong. I am waiting to call ALPA tomorrow to see if I missed something before I press the issue. Trip is on the 12th so I have time. But extra pay is good too.

They are pushing really hard against double 23k and no recovery. It's frustrating. They are flat out wrong and they refuse to make it right.

Jaww 08-10-2020 06:29 AM

An update. Spoke with ALPA and they agree. Called skeds again this morning to try again. That person was agreeable yet I’m still showing a recovery obligation in icrew. This is exhausting.

dc10guy 08-10-2020 02:07 PM

Had my next trip 23k. On my monthly schedule it says, REMARKS: 23K WITH NO RECOVRY DUE TO OVERCOVER LEGS IN DOUP. I have no obligation correct or can they change it before checkin time for original trip?

tennisguru 08-10-2020 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by dc10guy (Post 3108058)
Had my next trip 23k. On my monthly schedule it says, REMARKS: 23K WITH NO RECOVRY DUE TO OVERCOVER LEGS IN DOUP. I have no obligation correct or can they change it before checkin time for original trip?

They can’t notify you of a change if you don’t answer the phone or log into icrew... :D

But seriously sounds like you are off the hook.


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