Search

Notices

USA now CDC Level 3

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-28-2020 | 03:45 PM
  #11  
Express pilot's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 762
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Gunfighter
The ALPA bulletin is not the source document for CDC Warning Level 3 countries. The list is dynamic and the five countries you mentioned represented the current list as of the time of publication. My interpretation is that we can refuse a trip to a country with a CDC Warning Level 3. While on reserve earlier this month, I checked the CDC list multiple times daily for updates. The list expanded substantially between publication and the 26th of March. On the 27th of March, the CDC expanded the list to a worldwide Warning Level 3, effectively including all countries.
I understand ALPA is not the CDC list. I think you’re looking at the CDC website wrong. If you get to the section you can pull the country down and select. You will see the current Level 3 which matches the bulletin the company put out on the 22nd. For our LAX777, SYD and HND are level 3.
Reply
Old 03-28-2020 | 04:32 PM
  #12  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,418
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by clear4approach
Relax, it's just the flu. You'll see, cases are going to go down to zero shortly...🙄
By Easter. Because it’s a beautiful day.
Reply
Old 03-28-2020 | 05:51 PM
  #13  
Gunfighter's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
1M Airline Miles
On Reserve
Gets Weekends Off
50 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,622
Likes: 639
Default

Originally Posted by Express pilot
I understand ALPA is not the CDC list. I think you’re looking at the CDC website wrong. If you get to the section you can pull the country down and select. You will see the current Level 3 which matches the bulletin the company put out on the 22nd. For our LAX777, SYD and HND are level 3.
Nope, I’m looking at it correctly. Did you do a search for Japan or Australia before posting? Have you found any country specific Cv19 warnings in the last 24 hours? Are you sure you are looking at the CDC and not the State Department? State Department still shows country specific warnings. As of this posting a country specific search on the CDC site reveals a level 2 warning in Japan for Rubella and no warnings for Australia. Italy does not return any warnings either. There wasn’t a drop down list on my iPad, just a field to type in a country name. My assumption is there are no country specific warnings for COVID-19, because the entire world is covered by the global Warning Level 3 for COVID-19 on the CDC website.

Have you seen any country specific Cv19 warnings at the following link in the last 24hrs? They had country specific listings yesterday, but I can’t find any today. When did you last review the CDC country list?
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices

Last edited by Gunfighter; 03-28-2020 at 06:04 PM.
Reply
Old 03-28-2020 | 06:39 PM
  #14  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 523
Likes: 1
Default

So if the US is level 3, can a reserve tap out of any domestic trip and return to long call?..

(asking for a friend)
Reply
Old 03-28-2020 | 07:58 PM
  #15  
Gunfighter's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
1M Airline Miles
On Reserve
Gets Weekends Off
50 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,622
Likes: 639
Default

When your friend hits “press to test” please report back with results.
Reply
Old 03-28-2020 | 08:22 PM
  #16  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 629
Likes: 0
From: 320A
Unhappy

Serious question,

Can ALPA not collectively, as our representative, just say we are standing down until the threat level to crews has been diminished through 1. Proper PPE worn in and around the airports, 2. Proper nutritional availability at both airports and layover hotels, 3. Proper transportation with minimal grouping/maximum social distancing 4. Reduction of CDC NYC from quarantine inplace/Level 3 warnings. Everyone of us is thinking pretty much the same thing about the futility of trying to manage any semblance of a schedule and I imagine most of us are starting to be concerned about catching this and brining it home to our loved ones. I realize our 4th floor guys are working hard, but ED and the lot aren't ubering between crashpads and walking around the streets looking for food in arguably the most dangerous place on the planet right now. Just random thoughts...anybody?
Reply
Old 03-28-2020 | 08:38 PM
  #17  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 462
Likes: 8
Default

Originally Posted by vyperdriver
Serious question,

Can ALPA not collectively, as our representative, just say we are standing down until the threat level to crews has been diminished through 1. Proper PPE worn in and around the airports, 2. Proper nutritional availability at both airports and layover hotels, 3. Proper transportation with minimal grouping/maximum social distancing 4. Reduction of CDC NYC from quarantine inplace/Level 3 warnings. Everyone of us is thinking pretty much the same thing about the futility of trying to manage any semblance of a schedule and I imagine most of us are starting to be concerned about catching this and brining it home to our loved ones. I realize our 4th floor guys are working hard, but ED and the lot aren't ubering between crashpads and walking around the streets looking for food in arguably the most dangerous place on the planet right now. Just random thoughts...anybody?
I’m concerned. I’m doing my best to be hyper vigilant with keeping my hands clean and keeping my hands away from my face. The more vigilant you are the more you realize you’re constantly touching things that many others have touched. It seems overwhelming.

I would love to be better informed on exactly how this thing is transmitted, is keeping my hands clean and away from my face enough??? I brought a pillow on my last three day. The last thing I want is to be the guy that brings this home to loved ones.
Reply
Old 03-29-2020 | 07:10 AM
  #18  
Grapple's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
From: Retired
Default

One of our biggest threats is getting infected while on a trip and then showing symptoms while at home.

Not only do we possibly infect our family when we return home but being conscientious professionals we call in sick but cannot realistically claim an OJI because where we became infected cannot be determined (even though it's most likely happened on a trip).

While most of the younger Pilots will shake it off some of the older ones may find this career ending.
Reply
Old 03-29-2020 | 07:23 AM
  #19  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 341
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by vyperdriver
Serious question,

Can ALPA not collectively, as our representative, just say we are standing down until the threat level to crews has been diminished through 1. Proper PPE worn in and around the airports, 2. Proper nutritional availability at both airports and layover hotels, 3. Proper transportation with minimal grouping/maximum social distancing 4. Reduction of CDC NYC from quarantine inplace/Level 3 warnings. Everyone of us is thinking pretty much the same thing about the futility of trying to manage any semblance of a schedule and I imagine most of us are starting to be concerned about catching this and brining it home to our loved ones. I realize our 4th floor guys are working hard, but ED and the lot aren't ubering between crashpads and walking around the streets looking for food in arguably the most dangerous place on the planet right now. Just random thoughts...anybody?
This x1000. I couldn’t agree more with you..,,It’s getting stupid out there. IMO Alpa is missing the big picture in regard to the Safety and Health of flight crews. They have however acknowledged that ASAPs are trending significantly higher...duh.
Reply
Old 03-29-2020 | 07:45 AM
  #20  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 662
Likes: 9
Default

Agreed. Currently commuting to JFK to sit for 4 hours before a DH that I couldn’t deviate from because all the cancellations. Then operate back to JFK. Land at midnight. At least they provided a back end hotel at JFK
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
GH95
Career Questions
30
05-29-2023 09:12 AM
Golden Flyer
Hangar Talk
14
03-04-2019 10:02 AM
crflyer
Regional
13
07-30-2012 11:06 PM
jet320
Major
2
10-20-2007 07:34 AM
N2rotation
Major
33
09-11-2007 07:54 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices