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crewdawg 03-31-2020 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3018263)
We negotiated sick leave, not paid personal leave. If we prefer to have paid personal time off, we should negotiate for that.

Potato, potato...agree to disagree I guess. Either way, I'm guessing going flying may trip the "S" or the "E" of the IMSAFE checklist.

BruhPilot 03-31-2020 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 3018250)
You're kidding right? You wanna risk war with the wife and almost certain "life in the garage" between trips so you can go to work? For your "sanity"?! That right there sounds insane. Need to get out of the house? I get it. I got a two year old at home and keeping him busy is driving me nuts. Solution? Go take a drive. Bring your golf clubs or a book, a cooler with a sandwich and a couple of beers and drive an hour or two out of town. Smack some balls into an empty field or read in a park then pack up and head home. Hell, bring a laptop with a flight sim on it if you need that. Does wonders for "sanity" and you don't need to risk the virus, war with the wife, or plan to be quarantined in the basement/garage/etc when you get home. Hell, if you need to make it an overnight trip, get a hotel somewhere and do it. But I don't think I'd go to work right now if you're looking for any semblance of "sanity".

What? Drink and drive for a few hours all over town while your county is probably on shelter in place orders? Trespass on to private property and hit golf balls (liter)? You do you mate.

clear4approach 03-31-2020 06:59 AM

I'm not going to comment on whether or not the OP should call in sick. I'll just say that being sick isn't the only reason to use our bank of time labeled "sick". It should more accurately be called our "not fit to fly" bank. Illness is only 1 of the reasons on the IMSAFE checklist.

DenVa 03-31-2020 06:59 AM

Most likely you’re going to get it, whether you go to work or not, unless you are on complete lock down.

Hope you haven’t opened your mail. Hope you haven’t gone to the store or had food delivered.

3 times now I’ve seen cashiers touch change with their gloves and then handle food. One was at a take out place.

my favorite is the Westin dtw. Take all the coffee makers out of the room that at most one person touches a day, and put coffee pots downstairs that everyone in the hotel touches. Brilliant!

Banzai 03-31-2020 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3018271)
Potato, potato...agree to disagree I guess. Either way, I'm guessing going flying may trip the "S" or the "E" of the IMSAFE checklist.

I think there's lots of gray area here. I don't have a problem going to work right now, depending on conditions. When I'm getting rerouted into multiple DHs, and then a NYC layover pops up, suddenly I don't feel so good about going to work.

My last trip I ended up in MIA for layover instead of RDU, and "enjoyed" multiple previously unscheduled DH legs. MIA isn't as bad as NYC, but none of these things were good for my personal overall stress level. I think if I had been rerouted in NYC I might have been a mess when I got home.

Ihateusernames 03-31-2020 07:03 AM

If you're not fit to fly, you're sick. How else would you call it? Pretty sure the I'm SAFE falls under sick. Some people are idiots.


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Tailhookah 03-31-2020 07:12 AM

Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say? - WSJ

Go to work. When this is over it’ll be a lot less frightening than we have all been made to believe by our esteemed politicians. There is definitely a risk group. But we have freaked out as a world community. As they say... “Don’t let a good crisis ever go to waste”.

Suck it up people. Go to work. You have more of a chance to catch this at Walmart in po-dunk USA now than anywhere else. And this “bug” has been spinning around the globe since at least November... all those trips and airport turns through world hubs you all made in December and January before this was even a big deal w/ people breathing all over you. Now it’s all of a sudden scary and dangerous.

When we all get tested for Bat Scratch Fever antibodies sometime soon, I bet the percentage of flight crews that had it, without even knowing it, will be close to 80-90%. Many of you have already been exposed. If you’re not fat, smoker, diabetic or vape like a chimney and under 60, then you are fine. Go lick a doorknob if you haven’t been exposed. It’ll help the herd immunity effect that we all will benefit from next year when this comes back.

gloopy 03-31-2020 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by casual observer (Post 3018168)
...but the numbers look like this:

70% chance that he'll get it. 80% chance it won't be a big deal if he does. 15% chance it will be serious and require hospitalization. 5% chance he will die, again, if he gets it.

So for every 1000 pilots who work, 700 will get it, 105 will require hospitalization and 35 will die?

casual observer 03-31-2020 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 3018268)
It's really not fair to the other pilots or the company to just call in sick. You're going to have to confront your wife with the fact that you're a pilot and that's your job - flying people places. It's going to be the same in May.. are you just going to keep calling in sick until there is no more Coronavirus?

If you (or your wife) don't want you to go to work, take KLOA for May-July, and PD your schedule for April.

This is probably the answer. Can't sick out for the duration of this. It is the job. If you get it, maybe 1% chance of dying. You will sacrifice to avoid transmission to her and the family. If she still doesn't like it, weigh the cost of the leave and personal drops and let her decide if the money is worth the risk.

ApachePhil 03-31-2020 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3018311)
So for every 1000 pilots who work, 700 will get it, 105 will require hospitalization and 35 will die?

Must be the statistics class they taught for liberal arts degrees. HA!!


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