‘moad’ 2020
#11
I really hope that the numbers on a displacement bid are not enough to scare the pilot group to cower in the corner. I mean we can already see that UAL dialed their numbers back and AALs isn't nearly as bad. I'd expect us to be somewhere in between.
#12
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I hear a lot of 88 pilots are going to the 717 too..Should be a huge surplus on it after this displacement bid.
#13
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From: Tractor seat
My displacement WAG:
100% of MD88/90 pilots
15% of ER (mostly on the FO side)
ATL717B will carry pre-furlough excess
BONUS WAG: August - partial cancellation announcement and AE - cash bleeding has stopped and forward looking numbers justify slowly unpausing planned NB deliveries. NYC220B is the big growth category, with more senior 717Bs escaping NYC (and the rest of the system) for systemwide vacancies to support 321NEO deliveries. More junior MDs to 717 have no seat lock, but lack seniority to escape the TYS overnights stacked between 4 leg days shuttling between hubs and everywhere they hope not to layover.
100% of MD88/90 pilots
15% of ER (mostly on the FO side)
ATL717B will carry pre-furlough excess
BONUS WAG: August - partial cancellation announcement and AE - cash bleeding has stopped and forward looking numbers justify slowly unpausing planned NB deliveries. NYC220B is the big growth category, with more senior 717Bs escaping NYC (and the rest of the system) for systemwide vacancies to support 321NEO deliveries. More junior MDs to 717 have no seat lock, but lack seniority to escape the TYS overnights stacked between 4 leg days shuttling between hubs and everywhere they hope not to layover.
#14
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I'd expect us to be far better and more optimistic than both of those examples. How could that not be the case? Greatest team ever assembled and we're in the best position because of it. Right? If not, why not?
#15
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Delta Air Lines today announced plans to purchase 40 Airbus ATR72-1000 aircraft for delivery between 2021 and 2022. The order, which comprises 10 interstate "widebody" ATR aircraft and 30 large narrowbody turboprop, is the latest step in Delta's prudent fleet renewal to enhance profitability while diligently managing capacity.
"This ATR agreement is another opportunistic fleet transaction for Delta in which we acquire economically efficient, proven-technology aircraft," said Richard Anderson, Delta's next chief executive officer emeritus. "These ATR will provide tremendous flexibility for Delta to optimally manage our capacity over the next five years while further improving the flight experience for our customers and returns for our shareholders."Reprising his role as the President the Board forgot to tell, when reached for comment Jim Whitehurst stated, "what do mean no 787's? We're merging?"
"Disciplined capital deployment is a cornerstone of Delta's comprehensive financial plan," said Paul Jacobson, Delta's chief financial officer. "These Airbus aircraft will generate free cash flow and improve our return on invested capital from the time they enter service." The aircraft will be equipped with 76 seats and a child seat.
Airbus ATR-1000
The A220 demonstrated the potential of geared turbofan technology. So we thought, why not remove the cowling, and make the fan a variable pitch? This innovation reduced fuel burns by 60% while resulting in only marginally slower cruise speeds.
Plastic is an environmental problem for our entire planet. By recycling grocery bags, garbage bags, baby diapers and straws into major structural components, we have made the ATR72-1000 the first airplane which cleans the planet.
Delta will be the first airline to operate the enhanced 24.2-metric ton ATR, which offers additional payload capacity and range. Delta will use the aircraft's versatility to optimize its intra-state networks in coastal areas, over flat terrain, basically, any airport which allows for a single-engine missed approach to be conducted over gently declining terrain.
The pilots of Delta Air Lines are represented by the Air Line Pilots Association. When reached for comment the Air Line Pilots Association commented "since this has the optional child seat, making it a 77 seater, it will be flown by mainline pilots." Council 20's Chairman insisted in releasing separate commentary stating "It will be flown by mainline pilots, since it has 77 seats, one of which is the optional child's seat" He then prattled several quotes from the decades-old movie Princess Bride.
Overall, Delta's people seem very happy with the announcement.

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"This ATR agreement is another opportunistic fleet transaction for Delta in which we acquire economically efficient, proven-technology aircraft," said Richard Anderson, Delta's next chief executive officer emeritus. "These ATR will provide tremendous flexibility for Delta to optimally manage our capacity over the next five years while further improving the flight experience for our customers and returns for our shareholders."Reprising his role as the President the Board forgot to tell, when reached for comment Jim Whitehurst stated, "what do mean no 787's? We're merging?"
"Disciplined capital deployment is a cornerstone of Delta's comprehensive financial plan," said Paul Jacobson, Delta's chief financial officer. "These Airbus aircraft will generate free cash flow and improve our return on invested capital from the time they enter service." The aircraft will be equipped with 76 seats and a child seat.
Airbus ATR-1000
The A220 demonstrated the potential of geared turbofan technology. So we thought, why not remove the cowling, and make the fan a variable pitch? This innovation reduced fuel burns by 60% while resulting in only marginally slower cruise speeds.
Plastic is an environmental problem for our entire planet. By recycling grocery bags, garbage bags, baby diapers and straws into major structural components, we have made the ATR72-1000 the first airplane which cleans the planet.
Delta will be the first airline to operate the enhanced 24.2-metric ton ATR, which offers additional payload capacity and range. Delta will use the aircraft's versatility to optimize its intra-state networks in coastal areas, over flat terrain, basically, any airport which allows for a single-engine missed approach to be conducted over gently declining terrain.
The pilots of Delta Air Lines are represented by the Air Line Pilots Association. When reached for comment the Air Line Pilots Association commented "since this has the optional child seat, making it a 77 seater, it will be flown by mainline pilots." Council 20's Chairman insisted in releasing separate commentary stating "It will be flown by mainline pilots, since it has 77 seats, one of which is the optional child's seat" He then prattled several quotes from the decades-old movie Princess Bride.
Overall, Delta's people seem very happy with the announcement.

VIDEO
#16
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From: 73na
My displacement WAG:
100% of MD88/90 pilots
15% of ER (mostly on the FO side)
ATL717B will carry pre-furlough excess
BONUS WAG: August - partial cancellation announcement and AE - cash bleeding has stopped and forward looking numbers justify slowly unpausing planned NB deliveries. NYC220B is the big growth category, with more senior 717Bs escaping NYC (and the rest of the system) for systemwide vacancies to support 321NEO deliveries. More junior MDs to 717 have no seat lock, but lack seniority to escape the TYS overnights stacked between 4 leg days shuttling between hubs and everywhere they hope not to layover.
100% of MD88/90 pilots
15% of ER (mostly on the FO side)
ATL717B will carry pre-furlough excess
BONUS WAG: August - partial cancellation announcement and AE - cash bleeding has stopped and forward looking numbers justify slowly unpausing planned NB deliveries. NYC220B is the big growth category, with more senior 717Bs escaping NYC (and the rest of the system) for systemwide vacancies to support 321NEO deliveries. More junior MDs to 717 have no seat lock, but lack seniority to escape the TYS overnights stacked between 4 leg days shuttling between hubs and everywhere they hope not to layover.
#17
Is there a way to put more than 12 preferences in the Mandatory displacement bid? I need more than 12 spots but can’t figure out how.
#18
"Delta will use the aircraft's versatility to optimize its intra-state networks in coastal areas, over flat terrain, basically, any airport which allows for a single-engine missed approach to be conducted over gently declining terrain."
Now that's funny...I don't care who you are! Except for my PTSD...
Now that's funny...I don't care who you are! Except for my PTSD...
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#20
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From: NBC
My displacement WAG:
100% of MD88/90 pilots
15% of ER (mostly on the FO side)
ATL717B will carry pre-furlough excess
BONUS WAG: August - partial cancellation announcement and AE - cash bleeding has stopped and forward looking numbers justify slowly unpausing planned NB deliveries. NYC220B is the big growth category, with more senior 717Bs escaping NYC (and the rest of the system) for systemwide vacancies to support 321NEO deliveries. More junior MDs to 717 have no seat lock, but lack seniority to escape the TYS overnights stacked between 4 leg days shuttling between hubs and everywhere they hope not to layover.
100% of MD88/90 pilots
15% of ER (mostly on the FO side)
ATL717B will carry pre-furlough excess
BONUS WAG: August - partial cancellation announcement and AE - cash bleeding has stopped and forward looking numbers justify slowly unpausing planned NB deliveries. NYC220B is the big growth category, with more senior 717Bs escaping NYC (and the rest of the system) for systemwide vacancies to support 321NEO deliveries. More junior MDs to 717 have no seat lock, but lack seniority to escape the TYS overnights stacked between 4 leg days shuttling between hubs and everywhere they hope not to layover.
I think we’ll see all ERs retired almost immediately. With the now under utilized 330, we just don’t need the ER lift. Boutique European destinations won’t be served for a couple of years, buying us time to rebuild international lift with a variety of Airbus products. 717s and 757s will see an accelerated sunset. The wild card is the 777, getting the ax if management enacts very deep cuts.
Well keep the 320s and 737-800s, with maybe tail-specific retirements.
I almost think they’ll have to open more 220 bases, just to carry the displacements. Cant have everyone sitting reserve in NYC! Ha!
I also think we’ll see the aircraft deliveries turned back on (220s, 321s, 330s) now that mgmt has had time to observe the landscape and figure out a plan. Will the 350s get turned back on, tho?
Last edited by Speed Select; 05-11-2020 at 08:42 AM.
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