10 777’s staying????
#83
Remember back when Southwest bought AirTran? SD very assertively stated in a memo, “We are in no way interested in the B-717s and WILL NOT be acquiring them. Period.” Sometimes the best way to let your employees know your intentions is to vigorously assert the opposite. So, we get it 😉
#87
There is a large backlog, if you will, in the desert candidates. I imagine the beer can makers have a full backlog for years and years ahead.
#88
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I don't understand the rumor behind FedEx taking the 8 ERs...
It would be more logical for them to take the 10 LRs, as they share the same engine as the 777F (plus all of the avionics and other rotable parts), plus they'd get 3 simulators out of a potential deal (2 full flights, 1 FTD).
As mentioned previously, there is no freighter conversion program for any 777-200 model; nearly every -200/-200ER retired to date has been scrapped immediately upon retirement or after a ~5 year lease to Russian operators.
That is, up until now, where a business case for a -200 BCF (or P2F) program may be justified. American, United, and Delta all have large 777 fleets from the mid to late 90s that are certainly on the chopping block.
Currently the only conversion program for the 777 is for the -300ER model, and this program is still in development.
It would be more logical for them to take the 10 LRs, as they share the same engine as the 777F (plus all of the avionics and other rotable parts), plus they'd get 3 simulators out of a potential deal (2 full flights, 1 FTD).
As mentioned previously, there is no freighter conversion program for any 777-200 model; nearly every -200/-200ER retired to date has been scrapped immediately upon retirement or after a ~5 year lease to Russian operators.
That is, up until now, where a business case for a -200 BCF (or P2F) program may be justified. American, United, and Delta all have large 777 fleets from the mid to late 90s that are certainly on the chopping block.
Currently the only conversion program for the 777 is for the -300ER model, and this program is still in development.
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I don't understand the rumor behind FedEx taking the 8 ERs...
It would be more logical for them to take the 10 LRs, as they share the same engine as the 777F (plus all of the avionics and other rotable parts), plus they'd get 3 simulators out of a potential deal (2 full flights, 1 FTD).
As mentioned previously, there is no freighter conversion program for any 777-200 model; nearly every -200/-200ER retired to date has been scrapped immediately upon retirement or after a ~5 year lease to Russian operators.
That is, up until now, where a business case for a -200 BCF (or P2F) program may be justified. American, United, and Delta all have large 777 fleets from the mid to late 90s that are certainly on the chopping block.
Currently the only conversion program for the 777 is for the -300ER model, and this program is still in development.
It would be more logical for them to take the 10 LRs, as they share the same engine as the 777F (plus all of the avionics and other rotable parts), plus they'd get 3 simulators out of a potential deal (2 full flights, 1 FTD).
As mentioned previously, there is no freighter conversion program for any 777-200 model; nearly every -200/-200ER retired to date has been scrapped immediately upon retirement or after a ~5 year lease to Russian operators.
That is, up until now, where a business case for a -200 BCF (or P2F) program may be justified. American, United, and Delta all have large 777 fleets from the mid to late 90s that are certainly on the chopping block.
Currently the only conversion program for the 777 is for the -300ER model, and this program is still in development.
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Another possibility is that they are "staying" long enough to use as collateral or a down-payment/trade-in to Boeing for the rumored Max order. Boeing Capital may end up owning them.
It should be noted that the 777-300ER conversion program is backed by GE and IAI and Boeing is not party to it.
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