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Old 09-17-2020 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Do we have any active flyers who aren't UNA and can just be a full up round in October, despite not having bid? I'm not sure how the special reserve lines are created - random days where they are needed, or does the pilot have a say?
Yes, there are pilots still flying who will have the option of a blank regular line (if they could have held a line) our custom built reserve line.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 03:15 PM
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Negotiations Update

The Delta MEC Negotiating Committee (NC) has reached a tentative agreement with the Company on LOA #20-03 Voluntary Scheduling Options. The agreement, if ratified, holds off 220 furloughs until at least January, 1 2021, and provides pilots in surplus categories with several new voluntary reduced value lines upon which to bid. It will be presented to the MEC next week at the Special MEC Meeting in Atlanta in open session. Following the presentation, the LOA will be posted to the Delta MEC website.

As stated in Delta town hall presentations, the Company approached the Negotiating Committee on Tuesday with an additional proposal. This new proposal would delay the remaining furloughs beyond October 1 in exchange for temporary modifications to the contract. The NC spent the week analyzing the proposal and will brief the MEC next week at the Special Meeting for their consideration.
Sounds like a voluntary ALV cut in fat categories. Unless there is a little more meat on the bone I’m not sure it will be a good take rate. After a MD to a fat category, I’ve been content doing 2 SC and maybe one trip for a full month res guarantee. Cutting the SC in exchange for a lower guarantee may do the trick. I’m guessing we won’t see the details unless it passes the MEC next week.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 03:16 PM
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I would gladly take a long term SIL. Is this even being discussed?
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Old 09-17-2020 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Have you seen it? I'll be pleasantly surprised if all voluntary measures that mirror those at SWA show up in this deal.
No, I'm just guessing that Ed will use this to make that claim.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Sounds like a voluntary ALV cut in fat categories. Unless there is a little more meat on the bone I’m not sure it will be a good take rate. After a MD to a fat category, I’ve been content doing 2 SC and maybe one trip for a full month res guarantee. Cutting the SC in exchange for a lower guarantee may do the trick. I’m guessing we won’t see the details unless it passes the MEC next week.


The MEC News Update says it will be discussed in open session and following the presentation it will be posted on the MEC website.

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Old 09-17-2020 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane

The MEC News Update says it will be discussed in open session and following the presentation it will be posted on the MEC website.

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Thanks for reading post 17 on my behalf.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Yes, there are pilots still flying who will have the option of a blank regular line (if they could have held a line) our custom built reserve line.
But how does a custom built reserve line get built? Who places the X days? If the add-in reserve lines take category reserves over 20%, does everyone get an extra X day, and how do those get placed?

Clearly these are extremely minor effects of managerial foot-dragging. If my work/home life were in suspended animation as a 1941er while the company was playing these games I would be livid.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
But how does a custom built reserve line get built? Who places the X days? If the add-in reserve lines take category reserves over 20%, does everyone get an extra X day, and how do those get placed?

Clearly these are extremely minor effects of managerial foot-dragging. If my work/home life were in suspended animation as a 1941er while the company was playing these games I would be livid.
I dunno, ask a VEOP'er who rescinded. It's the same contractual setup they got.
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Old 09-17-2020 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Have you seen it? I'll be pleasantly surprised if all voluntary measures that mirror those at SWA show up in this deal.

Didnt the SWA pilots voluntarily take a ALV reduction to help save pilots? I think SWAPA did it outside of a company demand/ask?
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Old 09-17-2020 | 05:22 PM
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I would gladly take a long term SIL. Is this even being discussed?

Delta has a philosophical problem with paying pilots not to work. It would look bad to the flight attendants.
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