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09-17-2020 | 10:23 PM
#42
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I suspect it’s a similar process as those who return from leave too late to bid a line. This happened to me when returning from mil leave, and crew scheduling arbitrarily assigned me my reserve days. For those senior enough, I believe there’s leeway to move x days, and they said potential of a blank regular line. For those most junior (now 220), I think the reserve days will be at the whim of scheduling.
09-18-2020 | 03:14 AM
#43
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The SWA contract gives the company the flexibility they need to reduce flying hours per pilot. They don’t really have a ALV like ours since their only max pickup limits are FAR117. That causes high speed taxi and asking for intersection departures in ATL with 13 aircraft in front of them.
09-18-2020 | 03:22 AM
#44
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I don’t believe they changed their contract. There was no need as the flexibility to reduce hours is built into their contract and system.
09-18-2020 | 04:10 AM
#45
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So, the JL memo states “we in good faith committed to reduce the number of pilots at risk of furlough by 220”. There’s no other qualifier or context. Clearly the intended message conveyed is more “permanent” furlough protection. The ALPA comm stated this number is only protected through January.
Somebody is lying. Either JL is lying by omission, or ALPA by overtly stating false information. In this case, I’m inclined to believe ALPA’s version of the truth. Company is simply offering three more months for a handful of pilots. Really it’s just to help themselves with their training crunch and being able to staff the A220 through the holidays. Once they got what they needed out of these guys they will cut them loose.
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Somebody is lying. Either JL is lying by omission, or ALPA by overtly stating false information. In this case, I’m inclined to believe ALPA’s version of the truth. Company is simply offering three more months for a handful of pilots. Really it’s just to help themselves with their training crunch and being able to staff the A220 through the holidays. Once they got what they needed out of these guys they will cut them loose.
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09-18-2020 | 04:16 AM
#46
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So, the JL memo states “we in good faith committed to reduce the number of pilots at risk of furlough by 220”. There’s no other qualifier or context. Clearly the intended message conveyed is more “permanent” furlough protection. The ALPA comm stated this number is only protected through January.
Somebody is lying. Either JL is lying by omission, or ALPA by overtly stating false information. In this case, I’m inclined to believe ALPA’s version of the truth. Company is simply offering three more months for a handful of pilots. Really it’s just to help themselves with their training crunch and being able to staff the A220 through the holidays. Once they got what they needed out of these guys they will cut them loose.
Somebody is lying. Either JL is lying by omission, or ALPA by overtly stating false information. In this case, I’m inclined to believe ALPA’s version of the truth. Company is simply offering three more months for a handful of pilots. Really it’s just to help themselves with their training crunch and being able to staff the A220 through the holidays. Once they got what they needed out of these guys they will cut them loose.
09-18-2020 | 04:44 AM
#47
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So, the JL memo states “we in good faith committed to reduce the number of pilots at risk of furlough by 220”. There’s no other qualifier or context. Clearly the intended message conveyed is more “permanent” furlough protection. The ALPA comm stated this number is only protected through January.
Somebody is lying. Either JL is lying by omission, or ALPA by overtly stating false information. In this case, I’m inclined to believe ALPA’s version of the truth. Company is simply offering three more months for a handful of pilots. Really it’s just to help themselves with their training crunch and being able to staff the A220 through the holidays. Once they got what they needed out of these guys they will cut them loose.
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Somebody is lying. Either JL is lying by omission, or ALPA by overtly stating false information. In this case, I’m inclined to believe ALPA’s version of the truth. Company is simply offering three more months for a handful of pilots. Really it’s just to help themselves with their training crunch and being able to staff the A220 through the holidays. Once they got what they needed out of these guys they will cut them loose.
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09-18-2020 | 05:28 AM
#48
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I’m shocked more pilots don’t have a problem with it also. It’s surprising to me that 90% of polled pilots say that staying home with pay and letting other people do the work Is the only solution they will be a part of. An ALV cut isn’t a rate cut. To me, working 15% less for 15% less seems like an honorable and ethical solution to save jobs
09-18-2020 | 05:36 AM
#49
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I’m shocked more pilots don’t have a problem with it also. It’s surprising to me that 90% of polled pilots say that staying home with pay and letting other people do the work Is the only solution they will be a part of. An ALV cut isn’t a rate cut. To me, working 15% less for 15% less seems like an honorable and ethical solution to save jobs
09-18-2020 | 05:38 AM
#50
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I’m shocked more pilots don’t have a problem with it also. It’s surprising to me that 90% of polled pilots say that staying home with pay and letting other people do the work Is the only solution they will be a part of. An ALV cut isn’t a rate cut. To me, working 15% less for 15% less seems like an honorable and ethical solution to save jobs
