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09-20-2020 | 04:26 PM
#141
Roll’n Thunder
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From: Pilot
The MEC Chair also said the “big” proposal was just that, a proposal. Just like -15% ALV was a proposal. They said they’d look at it and decide what to do with it. Which could be anything from reject it or make a counter. It sure looks like a last minute cram down.
So I guess I’m agreeing with you.
So I guess I’m agreeing with you.
09-20-2020 | 04:40 PM
#142
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2015
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From: UNA
You guys sound like you’re mixing the two “deals” currently on the table. The LOA that has voluntary measures only and saves the additional 220 furloughs is finalized and will get voted on Tuesday and if it passes it will be made available to everyone shortly afterwards. The “big” proposal that saves all furloughs (and probably requires memrat) is getting briefed to the MEC on Tuesday but there’s no actual TA to vote on yet. The details of that probably won’t be released until there’s an actual TA voted on, or unless there’s more attempts to negotiate in public.
EDIT I see this was answered by tennis and ER flyer
09-20-2020 | 04:44 PM
#143
75 most of the time
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From: 7ER B
09-20-2020 | 04:59 PM
#144
Line Holder
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You guys sound like you’re mixing the two “deals” currently on the table. The LOA that has voluntary measures only and saves the additional 220 furloughs is finalized and will get voted on Tuesday and if it passes it will be made available to everyone shortly afterwards. The “big” proposal that saves all furloughs (and probably requires memrat) is getting briefed to the MEC on Tuesday but there’s no actual TA to vote on yet. The details of that probably won’t be released until there’s an actual TA voted on, or unless there’s more attempts to negotiate in public.
Who knows what else management is proposing, but I’m betting it contains concessions.
09-20-2020 | 05:12 PM
#145
75 most of the time
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From: 7ER B
All TAs should go to MEMRAT even if considered a slam dunk—it’s the default position. It can be overridden by 2/3rds (I think it’s the #) majority but should not be the norm. The voluntary proposal is a TA reached by the NC and will be presented to the MEC this week. If the majority of the MEC supports it, then it should go to memrat.
Who knows what else management is proposing, but I’m betting it contains concessions.
Who knows what else management is proposing, but I’m betting it contains concessions.
09-20-2020 | 05:15 PM
#146
Gets Weekends Off
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09-20-2020 | 05:25 PM
#147
Gets Weekends Off
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From: MadDog gear slinger
It’s voluntary. No need for memrat.
09-20-2020 | 05:45 PM
#149
Line Holder
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Directly from the Delta ALPA policy manual:
“All other amendments to the PWA (side letters of agreement) that have been recommended for approval by a majority vote of the MEC shall be subject to membership ratification.”
Doesn’t differentiate whether voluntary or not.
“All other amendments to the PWA (side letters of agreement) that have been recommended for approval by a majority vote of the MEC shall be subject to membership ratification.”
Doesn’t differentiate whether voluntary or not.
09-20-2020 | 05:49 PM
#150
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Quick, recall the VEOP pilots! Sorry Denny, you're never leaving!
