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09-24-2020 | 05:47 AM
#371
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From: Capt
By that rationale, furloughs are a “huge give” also. That same person will be doing 5-6 SC when 1941 hit the streets and the optimizer has its way with the rest of the group. The company is going to cut to the bone, high utilization for those sticking around. At least this LOA gives people choices, saves jobs and improves QOL for many.
Folks can’t have it both ways. The company is about done paying people 72-hours for min work. We can either help to manage it ourselves by volunteering to work less/more based on personal preference, or else the company will unilaterally manage it for us (people sticking around will be working a lot with little flexibility, furloughs will be working none)...
Folks can’t have it both ways. The company is about done paying people 72-hours for min work. We can either help to manage it ourselves by volunteering to work less/more based on personal preference, or else the company will unilaterally manage it for us (people sticking around will be working a lot with little flexibility, furloughs will be working none)...
09-24-2020 | 05:50 AM
#372
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By that rationale, furloughs are a “huge give” also. That same person will be doing 5-6 SC when 1941 hit the streets and the optimizer has its way with the rest of the group. The company is going to cut to the bone, high utilization for those sticking around. At least this LOA gives people choices, saves jobs and improves QOL for many.
Folks can’t have it both ways. The company is about done paying people 72-hours for min work. We can either help to manage it ourselves by volunteering to work less/more based on personal preference, or else the company will unilaterally manage it for us (people sticking around will be working a lot with little flexibility, furloughs will be working none)...
Folks can’t have it both ways. The company is about done paying people 72-hours for min work. We can either help to manage it ourselves by volunteering to work less/more based on personal preference, or else the company will unilaterally manage it for us (people sticking around will be working a lot with little flexibility, furloughs will be working none)...
09-24-2020 | 05:56 AM
#373
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From: Capt
This is the part I don’t think pilots grasp. The company wants a cost reduction from the pilots. They have a contractually legal method to achieve that reduction. They are offering alternatives to the current contractual option. We as pilots are not deciding if there will be cost reductions. The only thing we are deciding is if we will force 100% of the reduction on the bottom of the seniority list or spread it throughout the seniority list. I know how I feel on the issue and what we should be done.
for decades. The smartest guy in the room parroted it just recently. They say we need X, how we get there is up to you. Pssst, hint....there’s y and z number too, you just don’t know it.
Many of the attitudes towards this agreement were shaped by the comments made about certain contract improvements by the same people now wanting “unity”.
09-24-2020 | 05:56 AM
#374
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09-24-2020 | 06:00 AM
#375
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09-24-2020 | 06:11 AM
#376
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only pre BK rate I can find is after we took the 32.5% pay cut. I don’t know what the pre cut rate was. I’m gonna guess it would have been $265 in 2006. Adjusting for inflation I get roughly $340 so $44 off. Until COVID I’m guessing PS was making up most of that difference (no PS before BK)
I was not saying everything is back to where it was, just saying we have come a long way since BK days
I was not saying everything is back to where it was, just saying we have come a long way since BK days
09-24-2020 | 06:12 AM
#377
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09-24-2020 | 06:41 AM
#378
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By that rationale, furloughs are a “huge give” also. That same person will be doing 5-6 SC when 1941 hit the streets and the optimizer has its way with the rest of the group. The company is going to cut to the bone, high utilization for those sticking around. At least this LOA gives people choices, saves jobs and improves QOL for many.
Folks can’t have it both ways. The company is about done paying people 72-hours for min work. We can either help to manage it ourselves by volunteering to work less/more based on personal preference, or else the company will unilaterally manage it for us (people sticking around will be working a lot with little flexibility, furloughs will be working none)...
Folks can’t have it both ways. The company is about done paying people 72-hours for min work. We can either help to manage it ourselves by volunteering to work less/more based on personal preference, or else the company will unilaterally manage it for us (people sticking around will be working a lot with little flexibility, furloughs will be working none)...
09-24-2020 | 06:42 AM
#379
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only pre BK rate I can find is after we took the 32.5% pay cut. I don’t know what the pre cut rate was. I’m gonna guess it would have been $265 in 2006. Adjusting for inflation I get roughly $340 so $44 off. Until COVID I’m guessing PS was making up most of that difference (no PS before BK)
I was not saying everything is back to where it was, just saying we have come a long way since BK days
I was not saying everything is back to where it was, just saying we have come a long way since BK days
