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Old 09-24-2020 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Fredturbo
now try the pre BK rate 2001 to 2020. Eyuupppp.
I’d be glad to if you can find me a 2001 pay scale. My point never was that everything is better than pre BK, it was just that we lost a lot in BK, and we have come a long way since those days.

EDIT oldest pay scale I can find for DL was 04 after the 32% cut. I also found a NW pay scale from the same year. 757 pay on both those scales adjusted for inflation is around $250. If someone has a pay scale from either airline around the 01 timeframe I’d love to see it.
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Old 09-24-2020 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Viking busdvr
A much better analogy would be: “Walk into your local Porsche dealership and pick out a nice $140,000 911S. Sign a purchase agreement, sign all the purchasing paperwork, and then the dealership tells you they are hurting for cash so please pay $160,000. This after lowballing you on your trade-in and telling all the other customers that you are cheap, and greedy....”
Don’t forget telling the mechanics, porters, receptionists that you haven’t paid enough.
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Old 09-24-2020 | 09:15 AM
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http://www.mediafire.com/file/8jv187...tract.pdf/file
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Old 09-24-2020 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Of the 220 pilots potential saved, I think there are only 6-9 guys/gals flying the 220 (plane)....not sure that is enough to staff it for the holidays.
It does staff the planes they’ve said are covering for the 220 until training is caught up.
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Old 09-24-2020 | 09:17 AM
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Thanks Boiler
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Old 09-24-2020 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
I’d be glad to if you can find me a 2001 pay scale. My point never was that everything is better than pre BK, it was just that we lost a lot in BK, and we have come a long way since those days.
What Aircraft/years of service and position would you like?
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Old 09-24-2020 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
What Aircraft/years of service and position would you like?
Using the 01 pay scales posted, my math says we would need a 16% raise to get to 01 pay scales adjusted for inflation. It’s interesting to see that.

I think this discussion is kinda a moo point now as I don’t see us getting a raise for a long time, and at this rate we probably can expect big cuts if the company starts looking at CH11.

if you don’t mind PMing me a couple from 01 (73N, 765, 777 if you got em) I’d like to look at them for my own curiosity.
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Old 09-24-2020 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Viking busdvr
A much better analogy would be: “Walk into your local Porsche dealership and pick out a nice $140,000 911S. Sign a purchase agreement, sign all the purchasing paperwork, and then the dealership tells you they are hurting for cash so please pay $160,000. This after lowballing you on your trade-in and telling all the other customers that you are cheap, and greedy....”
Don’t forget that same salesman also went on the public record saying he literally lost sleep over the fact that he didn’t charge you more for your last 911S
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Old 09-24-2020 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by D B Cooper
In 2000, I could take a girl out for dinner and a movie and gate laid for under $100. Good luck finding that deal in 2020.
FAs were easier (and younger) back then.
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Old 09-24-2020 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
Don’t forget that same salesman also went on the public record saying he literally lost sleep over the fact that he didn’t charge you more for your last 911S
That wouldn't happen if you bought a Miata
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