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notEnuf 10-30-2020 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 3152540)
I'm sorry, but I can't resist...If it has been posted already, my apologies. CRS disease.

Commuting is a choice!:D:eek:

Gonna have to rethink my choice with PS comutes now. (soon to be)

RamenNoodles 10-30-2020 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 3152339)
Oh and i think you're parsing words trying to convince me that Endeavor pilots ARE Delta pilots. When Delta was using many regionals to do their flying, most notably ComAir and ASA, did anyone consider those pilots to be Delta pilots??? Weren't one or both of those carriers "wholly owned at one time? What's the difference? I suspect what makes Endeavor being a wholly owned subsidiary today was for tax and financial considerations.
Again, no one is disputing Endeavor's value and importance to the corporation. But this is about Delta pilot retirement benefits being eroded by this change.

For context, Comair and ASA both received identical pass travel as mainline employees when those airlines were wholly owned. I used to travel as an S2/S3 my first few years at ASA.

beernutt 10-30-2020 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3152079)
We don't want RJs. Pay scale is crap. Rather use a NB to fill that. But we don't make that call as pilots do we?

Again, you are saying we are ****ed at EDV pilots? I've asked a couple times now to show me where we said that? We are just looking at a proposal, not even that. It was a request from a VEOP guy. I forwarded it to my LEC.

You guys started in with "hurrrr durrrr hurrr we work for Delta" crap. That - we do take issue with. Sorry we got your panties in wad dude but facts are facts. You don't work for Delta Air Lines.

Go see the crying babay now.

Stop saying ‘we’ as if you speak for all Delta pilots. You don’t.
And what did you ‘fly’ in the military? I’m starting to think your rank started with an E and not an O.

DeltaCorrectons 10-30-2020 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 3152540)
I'm sorry, but I can't resist...If it has been posted already, my apologies. CRS disease.

Commuting is a choice!:D:eek:


So is going on vacation

notEnuf 10-30-2020 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3152645)
Stop saying ‘we’ as if you speak for all Delta pilots. You don’t.
And what did you ‘fly’ in the military? I’m starting to think your rank started with an E and not an O.

What do have against Es? :rolleyes: How about Ws? That's a classic privileged O thing to say. Let me guess, you polish your ring before every trip and intentionally clank it against the controls.

Drum 10-30-2020 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3152645)
Stop saying ‘we’ as if you speak for all Delta pilots. You don’t.
And what did you ‘fly’ in the military? I’m starting to think your rank started with an E and not an O.

You never really have anything good to say do you?

If I speak for one more than me, which I know I do, that makes it "we" doesn't it?

I flew F-16s, 20 years. If you go back a read some of my prior posts you would have known that.

Keep being angry on the APC bro.

Today is a good day for us, our MEC and NC.

Have a nice weekend.

Gone Flying 10-30-2020 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3152683)
You never really have anything good to say do you?

LOL pot meet kettle


Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3152683)
If I speak for one more than me, which I know I do, that makes it "we" doesn't it?

If you think you are too good to fly RJs at mainline you are part of the problem. we need to bring that flying back in house. id gladly fly a CRJ or 175 for our pay rates vs have it outsourced. if you don't want to fly it don't bid it

Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3152683)
I flew F-16s, 20 years. If you go back a read some of my prior posts you would have known that.

Keep being angry on the APC bro.

again you might not want to throw stones on this one


Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3152683)
Today is a good day for us, our MEC and NC.

Have a nice weekend.

agree with you here

theUpsideDown 10-30-2020 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3152692)
LOL pot meet kettle



If you think you are too good to fly RJs at mainline you are part of the problem. we need to bring that flying back in house. id gladly fly a CRJ or 175 for our pay rates vs have it outsourced. if you don't want to fly it don't bid it


again you might not want to throw stones on this one



agree with you here

Bring the RJ's in house today. Next best plan is tomorrow.

There, next time you talk you can say "we" too

Cogf16 10-30-2020 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 3152695)
Bring the RJ's in house today. Next best plan is tomorrow.

There, next time you talk you can say "we" too

So the entry level position at Delta is the right seat of a CRJ? Could Delta compete for new hires if our competitors dont' do this? And what would that pay? Agreed that it would solve a lot of scope issues but I think the company would really fight this, especially if other airlines don't(and of course we would target a MUCH HIGHER rate than current)

OOfff 10-30-2020 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 3152708)
So the entry level position at Delta is the right seat of a CRJ? Could Delta compete for new hires if our competitors dont' do this? And what would that pay? Agreed that it would solve a lot of scope issues but I think the company would really fight this, especially if other airlines don't(and of course we would target a MUCH HIGHER rate than current)

I’m pretty sure we could “fight” for new hires, considering the upside of a delta seniority spot is a touch better than other CRJ operators 👀


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