Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3152079)

Go see the crying babay now.

Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3152077)

This was an "in general" post directed at the EDV pilots posting here in this thread.

Originally Posted by Catboatsailor (Post 3152158)

yeah BS. You thought I was still at 9E. You tried to pet your ego with a meme and failed.

The light at the end of the tunnel, over half the pilots hired in the last 5 years are from regionals. They’ve been crapped on, treated with the professional courtesy that you so plainly display. We will change this company for the better. Our new AIP is one small example. Shocker, it led by a MEC chairman who came from a regional. The ADG can kiss our ass. We will stick it out for the long fight. Negotiations here are easy compared to regional negotiations.

Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 3152168)

I predict a little less nonsense from drum on this thread as much as he's been called out.

By the way, what kind of multihull you sporting.

Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3152001)

EDV pilots don't work for Delta. Fact. EDV pilots should not get priority over retirees except for going TO work.

Originally Posted by JonGoodsell764 (Post 3152201)

So they can get TO work to fly your pax, on your routes, on your metal but when its time to go home to their families, they're sol? Edv pilots DO work for Delta. Fact. Who's pax are they flying? On who's routes? Who's planes? United? American? They may be contracted, but they're actively contributing to your profits. To suggest that they can get to work to make you your money but then take a back seat to somebody who threw bags 20 years ago while trying to get home shows your lack of understanding, compassion and humility. I would think someone who constantly beats their anti-concession drum would have a better grasp on how things got this way, but I assure you the blame is not to be laid at the feet of edv pilots.

Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3151817)

So what's the solution? The EDV employee gets S3A, their spouse and dependents get S3B unless traveling with the employee in which case they get bumped up to S3A? That would make the most sense and be the easiest to implement. It's already how we are with parent travel at mainline where the parent with the employee gets bumped up to S3. Most employees traveling by themselves would be going to/from work so there wouldn't really be a need for actual verification each and every time they traveled.

Originally Posted by JonGoodsell764 (Post 3151870)

EDV has, what, 2k pilots on their list? If you have a gripe about edv companions, management, and beneficiaries of edv PILOTS getting S3A, then okay, I can understand the gripe. But ****ing off an entire pilot group who is by all accounts, improving your bottom line and working their butts off to maintain mainline metrics just trying to get to and from work, doesn't seem worth it imo. No, they aren't mainline, but they are absolutely an important piece to the puzzle with their performance. I know how strong the god complex is down in dixieland but they(edv) do a pretty significant amount of lift for you guys and from my time there, seemed by all intents and purposes to be an extremely professional work group. Not sure how that small of a pilot group in the grand scheme of things can ruffle so many feathers, especially those who are no longer active or contributing to Delta.

Originally Posted by Mainline Mulier (Post 3151879)

As a pilot, you don’t own anything. You’re just an employee, working for the shareholders. No different than a gate agent or flight attendant.

Endeavor pilots work for DAL shareholders.

Retirees don’t work for DAL shareholders.

Cogf16 was hired at DAL with 700 hours, wouldn’t even meet the bare minimum requirements at endeavor today.

Perhaps you guys could practice some humility. You make the entire pilot group look like spoiled brats. If you didn’t want this you should have went to SWA or JetBlue.