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Old 11-23-2020, 04:34 PM
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they can still call in sick. There's a difference between getting compensated for being sick and not being able to do their job. Try again
That simply isn’t true in many cases. As one small example, I worked in manufacturing for years before coming here and the hourly employees could find themselves terminated for calling in sick too often.

Our own FAs are under similar scrutiny, as another example.
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:52 PM
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That simply isn’t true in many cases. As one small example, I worked in manufacturing for years before coming here and the hourly employees could find themselves terminated for calling in sick too often.

Our own FAs are under similar scrutiny, as another example.
Delta asks specifically about prior sick use (military and civilian) during pilot hiring boards. And of course pilots pursuing employment here know this.
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Old 11-23-2020, 05:42 PM
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Delta asks specifically about prior sick use (military and civilian) during pilot hiring boards. And of course pilots pursuing employment here know this.
I was not asked about any prior sick usage during my interview.
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Old 11-23-2020, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by deltaboundredux View Post
in much of the private sector in the us, even taking earned vacation days is generally considered bad form.

There's a solution to both issues (sick leave, vacation time): It's called having a union, collective bargaining, and a contract.

For many reasons (some good, some not so good), private sector unions are very much out of favor in the us. (not so for government unions, which is rather odd).

Time for the pendulum to swing back the other direction.
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Old 11-24-2020, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
I was not asked about any prior sick usage during my interview.
I wasn’t either but I believe the PRIA (did I get that right?) form covers this.
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Old 11-24-2020, 03:40 AM
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... The party of fear and obedience will not let up. I pray I’m wrong...
Rush, Sean, Michael, 80% of the other AM radio talk host spreading fear but continuing obedience to the Chief Clown ... They keep the GOP strong ... so what’s your beef with the party?
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Old 11-24-2020, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74 View Post
Delta asks specifically about prior sick use (military and civilian) during pilot hiring boards. And of course pilots pursuing employment here know this.
I wasn’t talking about Delta.

My original comment was a response to someone saying, “After covid more people in the US should be calling in sick”. That’s a very narrow viewpoint, as It’s just not a viable option for many people.
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Old 11-24-2020, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww View Post
I wasn’t either but I believe the PRIA (did I get that right?) form covers this.
The PRIA only covers FAA enforcement action(s) and previous training failures at previous companies and/or checkrides.

Due to some loopholes in PRIA that allowed stuff to be "hidden", many companies now require you sign a privacy act waiver so they can get literally any piece of paper your previous companies kept about you. This would include absences for sick calls, I'd imagine.

Maybe COVID will reverse the culture a bit at airlines: Instead of frowning at an annual sick call a year during flu season, they'll instead be wondering how their applicant managed to fly 5-10 years without ever calling in sick (i.e., they flew while sick and exposed their coworkers/passengers to disease).
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux View Post
In much of the private sector in the US, even taking earned vacation days is generally considered bad form.

There's a solution to both issues (sick leave, vacation time): it's called having a union, collective bargaining, and a contract.

For many reasons (some good, some not so good), private sector unions are very much out of favor in the US. (not so for government unions, which is rather odd).

Time for the pendulum to swing back the other direction.
11% of non governmental jobs are union.

“Unions are killing our country.”

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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux View Post
In much of the private sector in the US, even taking earned vacation days is generally considered bad form.

There's a solution to both issues (sick leave, vacation time): it's called having a union, collective bargaining, and a contract.

For many reasons (some good, some not so good), private sector unions are very much out of favor in the US. (not so for government unions, which is rather odd).

Time for the pendulum to swing back the other direction.
Would love to see this pendulum swing, too. More trade unions protecting American private sector jobs, and less government unions protecting government jobs.

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