LeineLodge

Possibly the best post to grace apc ever. And I think from an auburn dude too? WDE hermano

jacinth

He underperformed Obama in cities all over America except notably GA, PA, MI, and WI. And then somehow has more votes than any other president. When he had no excitement about him. Either way, having ballots mailed out to everyone in a state when all you need is a backposted envelope is ridiculous. The opportunity for fraud is enormous. I don’t think things will go Trumps way, but I think it is obvious fraud occurred in this election. Biden couldn’t get 20 people at a rally. Trump showed up last minute here before the election and had 50,000 show up. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of signed affidavits claiming fraud that have come forward, the usps whistleblowers, the issues in GA and PA, the cluster that the dominion voting machines have turned into, 322 counties have more registered voters than people living there. Honestly, for all Americans it’s a joke. Ballot harvesting should be illegal. Voter registration should end before early voting even starts and those numbers made public prior, and then fix the system. We should at least be able to go in privately and securely and see who we voted for after the fact.

formerdal

Hundreds of thousands of Affidavits???? Funny, Trumps lawyers are having to admit they have no evidence in court. if what you say is true they would be wining court cases all over the place. There was no fraud! People were so tired of Trump they came out in droves. Hell, Republicans and independents pushed Joe over the top, how else do you explain the fact that Democrats lost seats in the house and didn't turn the Senate? They couldn't take Trump anymore but voted their republican policies through their senators and congressman. Go look at a mail in ballot, there is very little chance of fraud, heck, Trump's own head of Homeland Security said this was likely the most secure election ever. The only fraud or rigging is happening now with the Narcisist in chief unable to cope with the loss...

jacinth

I don’t know where “of thousands” came from. Must have been an auto correct, but yes hundreds have been filed. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Trump is going to win. If mail in fraud occurred, which I think is obvious in PA, it is nearly impossible to prove. Trump expanded his base in this election and had many democrats voting for him. Again Milwaukee, Atlanta, Detroit, and Philadelphia were the only cities Biden overperformed Obama on. All of which use dominion machines. This show is just getting started. We know the dominion machines swapped votes from trump to Biden in Michigan. That was only found because one lady knowing her base decided to look into it. We just don’t know the extent. The statistical analysis is off in these states. There are significant irregularities. My only position is it shouldn’t be this ambiguous. As Americans we should be able to go in and see who we voted for. Mass Mail in ballots should never be allowed again. The voter registration roles must be fixed, and we need a better system.

formerdal

No, We don't KNOW that....that's the propaganda machine!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/6282157002/

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...aused-widespr/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-d...se-accusation/

Come on, at least do you a little research before stating things as fact. Just because someone said it doesn't make it true!!
If this stuff you are talking about were true POTUS' personal attorney Barr just instructed his guys to investigate the fraud...yet nothing. Just like Trump's 3-5 million fraudulent popular votes when he was elected. You know he created a committee to investigate it, they too found NOTHING. The committee was disbanded without even filing a report.

GucciBoy

I’m sitting here typing trying to figure out how “hundreds” autocorrects to “hundreds of thousands.” Haven’t found it yet.

OOfff

I’m sitting here trying to figure out how it’s more likely that the Democratic Party engaged in widespread, easy-to-detect voter fraud than it is that a few maga types filed false statements.

TED74

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

Phins2right

To be clear, there are hundreds of affidavits filed in the contested states: WI MI PA NV AZ GA

I think he was referring specifically to Wayne County. 11 witnesses, both R and D, have provided sworn testimony to the illegal activities occurring in Detroit - about 234 pages worth (POTUS press secretary). Maybe that is where the confusion lies?

For you, let's see how the SCOTUS rules. Because this will be resolved there. PA blatantly violated an order from Justice Alito (SCOTUS judges don't unilaterally write orders BTW). Bold move, we'll see how it plays out. I've resolved myself to accept whatever decision they make, have you?

formerdal

How about a link where they blatantly violated his order. My understanding was there was a question whether all counties were segregating the ballots arriving after 8 pm but generally were already doing it. His order was basically to support that. I haven't read anywhere that they blatantly ignored his order...In fact the election commission stated all counties had complied.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/6201926002/

https://www.clickondetroit.com/decis...2020-election/

I think they will need at least one case to go forward to get to the supremes.

Frankly anything out of the WH press secretary's mouth is less reliable than Bahgdad Bob. Like her over a Million marching in DC when there were all of 20k or less...