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Old 11-19-2020, 10:36 AM
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Ya. Beef up the rcc influence. It’ll matter a lot going forward
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Old 11-19-2020, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq View Post
I think the more interesting thing yet to be seen will be how the committees change under Chairman Ambrosi....if they even do. Who can forget the Scheduling/PBS walk-out a few years ago.
That was triggered by the MEC, not the Chairman.
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Old 11-19-2020, 03:21 PM
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As Buck pointed out, the key words in my statement were ‘in an elected or appointed position’. If you ever had been then you would be more aware of the power structure in our Association because you would have seen it operate from an insider’s viewpoint. I assumed you had not, so I was letting you know kind of how it works. Nothing more. If you interpreted that as patronizing that’s on you for not reading and understanding the sentence.

The rest of your reply, including where you told me I was wrong, has been refuted by others in this conversation. Additionally, I never said the MEC chair had no influence. I said his position was largely titular. Not the same thing.

Since you came looking for it, here’s some patronization, some might call it helpful advice - you would do well to spend more time in the receive mode vs transmit.
Again, here you go. Pretty much buttresses my claim on you.

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Old 11-19-2020, 07:24 PM
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This is phenomenal news! Jason is a good dude. What did RS get us during his term? Not much of anything.
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Old 11-19-2020, 08:24 PM
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This is phenomenal news! Jason is a good dude. What did RS get us during his term? Not much of anything.
Seriously!?! Just look at his leadership during this Pandemic. He held the line and has essentially followed the will of the pilot group. I don’t know either one but give some credit where credit is due.

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Old 11-19-2020, 09:08 PM
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Because they’d have to sit on the floor otherwise?
Hey I'm sorry I'm the first guy jumpin in here. This was damn funny. Over the top great. That is all.
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Old 11-20-2020, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
Seriously!?! Just look at his leadership during this Pandemic. He held the line and has essentially followed the will of the pilot group. I don’t know either one but give some credit where credit is due.

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How exactly does any MEC officer do anything?

Answer is, they can’t unless they have direction from the MEC. It was the MEC that held the line. Anyone in the same spot would have been directed to do the same thing.

The top down, Chairman is the Captain of the Ship thing departed the pattern with LM, and a stake was put through its heart after TA1. These days the position is basically an office manager.
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Originally Posted by NuGuy View Post
How exactly does any MEC officer do anything?

Answer is, they can’t unless they have direction from the MEC. It was the MEC that held the line. Anyone in the same spot would have been directed to do the same thing.

The top down, Chairman is the Captain of the Ship thing departed the pattern with LM, and a stake was put through its heart after TA1. These days the position is basically an office manager.
It is my understanding that almost every committee except for the NC reports to, and is guided directly by, the MEC chairman. In practice, I don't know what that really means... but it leads me to believe the position is still more than just a figurehead aggregating MEC opinion.
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Old 11-20-2020, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejuice71 View Post
This is phenomenal news! Jason is a good dude. What did RS get us during his term? Not much of anything.
Great post... clearly not one sided and guided blindly by dislike for an individual. But, I read it on the internet so it must be true. RS did not much of anything, just ignore the codified COVID protections, the fatigue management improvements, the VEOP with its industry leading take rate, the asked for scheduling flexibility, and the furlough mitigation TA that includes many of the improvements that were sought in section 6 with a temporary give of TLV flexibility. Yup, not much of anything, especially during the last 8 months of pandemic.
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According to one of my reps in C1, it was not a difficult decision. "Company man" and "Surrender monkey" are just plain wrong. The only negative comment I could dynamite out of him was "Sometimes RS didn't seem to work hard on things he didn't like, but was told to do"

I trust my reps.
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