jacinth

As predicted 5 months ago. 90% of our cases can be wiped away overnight. And they will say “it was the vaccine. Tremendous success.”


https://redstate.com/michael_thau/2021/01/20/total-coincidence-alert-who-issues-new-c19-guidelines-requiring-2nd-test-for-symptom-less-on-day-biden-takes-office-n313400

Iceberg

Substitute diaphragm for condom since that’s what a V would use.

LumberJack

Oh fantastic, what has everyone been dying from then?

NuGuy

Oversaturation of bad news.

LumberJack

What's wrong with upping the mask quality now that supply can handle it? Also, do you have a source for your "little to no impact" claim? Everything I've seen says the opposite.

Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2

waldo135

You might want to read the whole article before you use it to say the case is closed. The article admits they were only to ‘observe’ after the fact, no blind study and no actual math/science to look at the others factors in each observation. Additionally, they kept going back to ‘multi-layer’ masks. Don’t know about you, but most of the gators and masks I see are not multi-layer. There was a Dutch study that showed no statistically significant benefit. Lots of discussion about the study, but it at least attempted to perform an actual experiment vice drawing conclusions after the fact.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/blogs/vinay-prasad/89778

LumberJack

Thanks for your blog post with a title telling me how I should think. I'm surprised you would use that as a source.

Mayo Clinic research confirms critical role of masks in preventing COVID-19 infection

Edit: went back a re-read it, I can't find where you took issue with it.

"Studies demonstrate that cloth mask materials can also reduce wearers’ exposure to infectious droplets through filtration, including filtration of fine droplets and particles less than 10 microns. The relative filtration effectiveness of various masks has varied widely across studies, in large part due to variation in experimental design and particle sizes analyzed. Multiple layers of cloth with higher thread counts have demonstrated superior performance compared to single layers of cloth with lower thread counts, in some cases filtering nearly 50% of fine particles less than 1 micron .14,17-29 Some materials (e.g., polypropylene) may enhance filtering effectiveness by generating triboelectric charge (a form of static electricity) that enhances capture of charged particles18,30 while others (e.g., silk) may help repel moist droplets31 and reduce fabric wetting and thus maintain breathability and comfort."

That's talking about filtration. As in, all masks reduce the distance particles fly. Multi-layer masks also filter.

RonRicco

I am just observing what happens when you implement a mandate. You can look across Europe for example, and all things being equal (level of lockdown) you don’t see “add mask” and a change in the curve. Typically you see it start with indoor mandate, (no change) outdoor mandate next (no change) and then back to some sort of lockdown. UK, Italy, France, Spain are all examples. Yes, it could have been worse without, but when you look at the countries that have low reported mask wear, they aren’t doing worse (some better) which is not what you would expect. Based on seasonality, their curves are typically pretty similar. The same patterns are repeated in the states as well.



Maybe cloth masks are the problem. Maybe medical grade will cut down on transmission of the virus. Maybe they wont. At least at this point in Germany, the guy wearing a cloth mask isn’t going to be able to point the finger and say “you aren’t following the science.”



I will try and find the link that has the 10 or so studies that showed cloth mask were ineffective against the flu.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

LumberJack

Obviously masks aren’t the cure. It's part of a broader plan. Just like hand washing isn't the cure and wiping down surfaces isn't the cure. The only known cure is to not be close to other people. There is evidence masks help, and they may prevent other diseases which lessens the strain on the healthcare system.

"Seven studies have confirmed the benefit of universal masking in community level analyses: in a unified hospital system,38 a German city,39 a U.S. state,40 a panel of 15 U.S. states and Washington, D.C.,41,42 as well as both Canada43 and the U.S.44 nationally. Each analysis demonstrated that, following directives from organizational and political leadership for universal masking, new infections fell significantly. Two of these studies42,44 and an additional analysis of data from 200 countries that included the U.S.45 also demonstrated reductions in mortality. An economic analysis using U.S. data found that, given these effects, increasing universal masking by 15% could prevent the need for lockdowns and reduce associated losses of up to $1 trillion or about 5% of gross domestic product.42"

Phins2right

Half the population has an IQ <90. So he's right.