LumberJack

COVID does not spread easily? Alright.

Mesabah

Yes, that's correct, the average person with Covid spreads the disease to 1.4 other people. Measles, a disease that spreads easily, is 12 other people.

LumberJack

Why does it have to be as bad as Measles to spread easily? That's like saying fission bombs aren't strong because fusion exists.

Hank Kingsley

Check out Wuhan today, those repressive karaoke bars are packed. Mask wearing cultures have done quite a bit better. Of course South Pacific islands too. Point is, Australia dropped all the political BS, they actually made a public proclamation of it, and decided everyone was in it together. The efforts seemed to have controlled it. Not rocket science. There is political hay to be made with masks, and boy we are winning again. Number one in the world.

DeltaboundRedux

100%, or even 80% mask compliance will never happen in the US. Full stop. To suggest at this point is just a badly designed engineered solution/mitigation strategy; one wonders why it's still being discussed.

A decade ago (ish), a routine Christmas story was someone(s) getting crushed to death pushing through store doors with the crowds on "Black Friday". If everyone would just que up in a orderly fashion and wait their turn, well, problem solved! Except it never worked, because all it takes is one person coming in just a bit too fast, and the entrance becomes a venturi, people get compressed at the choke point, and someone who can't breathe pushes the person in front, who does the same to the person in front of him, someone falls, and the mass literally can't be stopped.

Better engineered solution: wider doors. MUCH wider doors, with multiple entrances. (Better long term solution: Invent Amazon and crush all other retail, so no one goes shopping anymore on Black Friday)

This used to happen routinely every year during Ramadan and the Hajj...lots of people crushed to death. Someone finally hired a British engineering firm in, swore them to secrecy about what they saw (as they were infidels), widened all the entrances/exits/hallways up..problem solved.

TLDR - High mask compliance as a mitigation strategy in the US has failed, and will continue to fail, especially if it requires 80%+ compliance. Masks as an engineered solution is terrible, and just cajoling everyone to "wear your mask, but harder!" is a complete waste of time. It's not politics, it's not science, it's just reality.

CX500T

The mask is a quasi religious symbol to some now.

Lack of mask is treated like wearing a I love Satan shirt.

Me and a friend got yelled at yesterday "where's your mask" while we were riding mountain bikes through a state park. By the only person I had seen in 2 miles aside from my friend I ride with.

Without missing a beat he went "OK Karen". Which was hilarious hearing a 65 year old retired guy yelling.

I almost fell off my bike laughing.

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Iceberg

I see where you’re going here. Instead of just telling people to wear it, we just duct tape their mouth and nose so removing the mask is more painful.

Gunfighter

Not to be outdone by the masked masses, the ultra woke are going for double.

Double-Masking: Why Two Masks Are the New Masks - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Herkflyr

I was amused when I was at a gas station, and the guy in front of me asked me to please step back for social distancing (we were both wearing the mask, by the way). I said, "Ok." He proceeded to walk to the cashier and ask for a carton of cigarettes.

LumberJack

You might want to do a quick internet search before throwing out overly confident statements. We're over 90% right now... Nobody said masks would fix it, just that they help.