Mesabah

The reason for the 1.4 number is because there is an unknown amount of cross immunity between coronaviruses. That is yet another thing that the CDC/WHO refuses to recognize. If it were droplets, the pandemic would be over already.

Phins2right

You've been lied to a lot about this cold bug.

First its origin. Then its name. Then that no drugs to treat it. What a "case" is. Then the vaccine - that really isn't a vaccine in the classical sense.

Do you know what COVID stands for without using google? Probably not. It stands for "COrona VIrus Disease". It started out as The Wuhan Flu. The CCP didn't like that name and put pressure on the media outlets to change it - ergo COVID. You'll learn soon that it did not come from bat soup in a wet market. They are already starting to walk that lie back.

https://torontosun.com/news/world/wh...via-a-lab-leak

Then they lied to you that there was not an effective treatment for it (there were several). Thousands died in this country from that claim.

This is the first ever where we, around the world, have seen the melding of politics, doctors, and experts to contrive a lie that has had devastating impact on economies and personal well being across the globe.

HCQ has been an FDA approved drug for over 65 years. You can purchase it OTC in just about any country except USA. Know why? No demand for it here.

Only given to RMA and Lupus or folks going to malaria countries. In Malaria countries were it is regularly consumed they call it their "Sunday, Sunday" pill. Because they take it every Sunday for the malaria. It is as common as tylenol or antacids one might carry on their person here.

Ivermectin is proven effective as well. And safe. For decades.

HCQ has been given to elderly, pregnant, infants, immuno compromised for decades. It is safe and effective. Until it wasn't - as determined by your overlords of experts, and bureaucrats. Another lie told to you.

Doctors are individually licensed. As a hospital bureaucrat you can't come in and tell them what they can or can't do or how they are going to treat a patient. They can prescribe any level of existing legal medicine. That's why you get a second/third opinion. It's actually against the law to have a "corporate practice of medicine" for others to tell a doctor how they will treat their patient. Yet it has happened here. Why?

The lies run deep. It started from the very beginning. That is what I'm telling you; that is why I don't believe their data.

GucciBoy

Is this how little you think of other airline pilots? That they don’t know what COVID stands for by now? Also, how can we take your rants seriously when you claimed that Biden would never be inaugurated as late as December of last year? I’d love you actually debate some of these points with you, but you’re so far over the cliff of reality it’s not possible.

Gspeed

I used to think that single pilot cockpits were still quite distant in the future, but Phinsy shows how incredibly stupid you can be while still operating an airliner. It seems that the bar for the concept is much lower than I thought.

Gunfighter

Setting aside any prejudices or opinions one may have regarding past Phins posts, there is a world of truth in his statement.

We are now dosing millions of people with vaccines under emergency authorization, but withheld use of a decades old drug because of "safety". Holding back HCQ was walking a fine line bordering on criminal, unethical, incompetence and medical malpractice. The same goes for Ivermectin.

People died because treatment was withheld. I'll stop short of speculating on reasons and leave that up to Phins...

Buck Rogers

And Fauci said mask don't help. Is that a litmus test? Instead of just simple name calling I would gladly read any link you provided to rebut Phins. Do you have anything like that?

APCLurker

Do you actually have anything to say in rebuttal of phins post other than your much over-used "chatty kathy doll" b b b but phins said biden would never hold office?

As Gunfighter said in his recent post, there is truth in phins post.

GucciBoy

COVID Moved Posts 1, Post #57. That’s one example. The whole “Biden will never be president” thing is not an irrelevant discussion when deciding if one has any credibility. I’m sure you’d agree.

Phins2right

But it is.

You are using to deflect. Your screed on this matter is now irrelevant as several posters have called you out on it. I'll continue to hammer you with facts.

I addressed that very minor topic and moved on. You can not let go of it. Because you've run out of airspeed and ideas.

GucciBoy

APClurker is the only person that has “called me out” on it, so I’d look up “several” in the dictionary if I were you. You “addressed” it by making a weak attempt to laugh it off by saying you saw it was a movie set on infowars.

I’m not going to let you off the hook after claiming that Biden wouldn’t become the president after he won a legitimate election (at least in the eyes of every court of law in which it was challenged).

I’m also not letting you off the hook with your weak arguments for HCQ. I am not even categorically dismissing your claims on the subject, but you refuse to engage in a fact-based argument. In the aforementioned Post 57 in the other thread, I asked why you would link to a study that promoted the use of HCQ in order to prove its legitimacy, but refute the SAME study when it says that mask wear is “essential.” Further, the study said HQC “may” be effective against COVID when used early in treatment, so not even the study YOU linked says that HQC is a cure-all for COVID.