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tcco94 02-26-2021 05:33 PM

Well I won't have a seat lock as affected pilot (the way I understand it), but unsure of how that will work when they run the big bid in a couple months. If I don't bid on that do I still have no seat lock? Don't mind being the plug on reserve per say ... but again if it takes me a year longer to get SLC320 over SLC220, I'd rather just take 220. Swap seats when I can with better seniority. Not a bad decision either way, especially since I was given 717 this time last year wishing I was in 220

Iceberg 02-26-2021 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 3200056)
Well I won't have a seat lock as affected pilot (the way I understand it), but unsure of how that will work when they run the big bid in a couple months. If I don't bid on that do I still have no seat lock? Don't mind being the plug on reserve per say ... but again if it takes me a year longer to get SLC320 over SLC220, I'd rather just take 220. Swap seats when I can with better seniority. Not a bad decision either way, especially since I was given 717 this time last year wishing I was in 220

Your first aircraft is your affected pilot proffer. This will not come with a seat lock. If you bid to a different aircraft after that, you will get a lock. You can base swap without changing aircraft as much as you want with or without a lock.

Bucking Bar 02-26-2021 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Wolf424 (Post 3200040)
More money and better trips? 320 - !!!!!!

So QoL or money? It’s the question everyone faces when bidding.http://1000awesomethings.com/wp-cont...2/laughing.jpg

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As I'm flying 3 or 4 legs every day, with the last leg being a trans-con red eye on a 319 with a follow on DH home (so the credit pays less) The 320 is the new MD88.

Abouttime2fish 02-26-2021 05:44 PM

Which AE will open the 787 and which base gets it?

Gone Flying 02-26-2021 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 3200037)
As someone living in SLC and currently 80 or so from the bottom, I know my fate. NYC for the time being. I may not even have a choice of aircraft but if I do on domestic fleets....

I really want 320 as that is the plane I want to be at right now. I know deliveries grow and the fleet will only have continued growth and a wide variety of trips and overnights. 220 I don't mind either, but I know the big complaint is trips and lack there of diversity in the bid package. Not sure if that changes over time. But getting back to SLC (obviously, I need hiring to occur) ... do you think 220 is significantly earlier to get back to SLC over 320? if it's just a matter of months or a couple AE's then it may be worth it for me, or if its longer then I should put 220 first and just switch to 320 later if I wish whenever I can hold SLC. Just unsure of the move here and I'm obviously very new so unsure of how junior the difference was with 220 and 320 in SLC pre-pandemic.

Like I said, might not have a choice anyways being this low. But in the event I do... Looking for some insight

What is more important, getting out of NYC or getting to SLC?

If getting out of NYC: You may be able to hold DTW/LAX/etc. 320 quicker than anything in SLC.

if getting to SLC: I’d say 220

320 might be better because you can bid any base but SEA to try to get a less sucky commute while you wait for SLC, and if a 220 slot in SLC opens first, you would not have a seat lock coming back from affected status.

Bergman 02-26-2021 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3200053)
Nearly all the reinstatements if not all have been cleared out. I think any 2014 or 2015 hire that wants a Capt position in NYC will get it on the rumored April MOAB

I wonder if there is a spreadsheet or other easy way to figure this out?

My guesstimate is there are several hundred displaced pilots system wide from 2014/2015 trying to move back to their pre-MOAD categories.

max gross 02-26-2021 06:00 PM

I know everything is subject to change, but what’s everyone’s thoughts on if we’ll have a surplus bid this year? Did I hear correctly that if the company wants a Moab it has to have displacements?

tcco94 02-26-2021 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by max gross (Post 3200074)
I know everything is subject to change, but what’s everyone’s thoughts on if we’ll have a surplus bid this year? Did I hear correctly that if the company wants a Moab it has to have displacements?

isn't that why they ended the displacement bid early to have displacements? If not I could see something on the 717 easily.

Funk 02-26-2021 06:16 PM

Imagine for a moment if the company instead of displacing pilots once per calendar year in order to have a 365 day conversion window, had to have five or six AEs (without cancellations) before it could publish another 365? Would it publish an AE every other month and take small, but constant bites at the apple, or would it run token AEs almost every month so it could get to another 365?

tcco94 02-26-2021 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3200063)
What is more important, getting out of NYC or getting to SLC?

If getting out of NYC: You may be able to hold DTW/LAX/etc. 320 quicker than anything in SLC.

if getting to SLC: I’d say 220

320 might be better because you can bid any base but SEA to try to get a less sucky commute while you wait for SLC, and if a 220 slot in SLC opens first, you would not have a seat lock coming back from affected status.

I think getting home is more important. Flying might not be great but hopefully improves. Then maybe just swap to 320SLC since I won't have a seat lock. Seems like guessing when I get it on the 320 is more risky than 220...


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