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04-02-2021, 10:54 AM

#1861

JamesBond

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Originally Posted by Bergman

AKA you could be stuck in NYC for a very long time as pilots senior to you pile in to ATL before you on subsequent bids.

And you will soon discover that by the time you can 'hold' ATL that you are a solid line holder in NY... at least on the -ER.

04-02-2021, 11:01 AM

#1862

OOfff

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Originally Posted by Bergman

Correct! My point was...say at 8000 seniority, you may get NYC320A on this bid, but then not have the seniority to get ATL320A for years.

I would never bid to a base planning to switch quickly. Why base transfers or swaps with no training required aren’t processed first is a whole different discussion.

the point is that whether you bid it on this bid or not, the result is the same. WBA in NYC doesn’t mean anything wrt you holding something else later

04-02-2021, 11:33 AM

#1863

MJP27

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Originally Posted by Bergman

I just went and looked at the Nov conversion list and there were 51 DTW350B converted that month alone. Plus all the 330B. I could be off, as I’m just on my phone, but there are dozens if not hundreds of pilots with reinstatement still.

I'm a VERY interested party going back to DTW330B and have reinstatement rights. I'm about 15 in line behind prior reinstatement's. There are maybe 20 junior to me. If and it's a big if, the junior folks converted NOV or later (I converted in Nov) , I'm seeing a max of 30-35 reinstatement's and that is if everybody wants to come back AND some others that just AE'd to other equipment on a subsequent AE, relinquishing their reinstatement rights. My prediction is 30 reinstatement's and probable another 20-30 AE in because there are 60+ A320A positions posted for DTW.

04-02-2021, 11:34 AM

#1864

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by Milk Man

yes I dont get it either.

Do you really think between now and next week the company is going to start a massive scope negotiation with the union and threaten not to grow if we don’t cave? Even though it’s a one year bid with the company going into a growth mode they would put themselves in a bad situation if they started trying to cancel some bids after the fact. The contract makes that expensive and it would increase training.

04-02-2021, 11:35 AM

#1865

NYCaviator

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Just to be sure this is all internal numbers, there wasn’t anything about Delta needing to hire anytime soon?

04-02-2021, 11:35 AM

#1866

GucciBoy

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Originally Posted by MJP27

I thought ALPA said that your reinstatement rights are not cancelled by any prior bid, could be wrong on that though.

04-02-2021, 11:41 AM

#1867

172skychicken

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Originally Posted by NYCaviator

Just to be sure this is all internal numbers, there wasn’t anything about Delta needing to hire anytime soon?

The bid will leave ~350 open positions that could potentially be used for newhires. They haven't officially committed to hiring. Yet.

04-02-2021, 11:43 AM

#1868

SkiBum95

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Originally Posted by NYCaviator

Just to be sure this is all internal numbers, there wasn’t anything about Delta needing to hire anytime soon?

Big D indicated there would be 350ish spots available for new hires...I expect hiring soon.

...looks like I was just beat to the punch

04-02-2021, 12:03 PM

#1869

LandGreen2

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Anybody pull trigger on 330b to 320a ATL? WB FO is a great job now, but wondering how senior you have to be on the 320a side to make it worth it from a QOL perspective. Pros/cons?

04-02-2021, 12:12 PM

#1870

FangsF15

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Originally Posted by CX500T

Are you talking ANY 7ER, or ATL 7ER?

I'm out on Long Term Mil Leave..

I'm interested to see what those junior to me bid and get awarded, as it looks like I can study what they get and pick what I want upon return, provided anyone junior to me was awarded it while I was gone.

That is exactly correct.