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Old 05-23-2021, 03:35 AM
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That subset is expected to grow to 40 plus airframes. Stocking parts for 10 airframes worldwide would be very expensive. We are also not purchasing the airframes new. Typically when a engine manufacturer wants you to make a switch from a existing power plant they throw in lots of sweeteners reducing costs to maintain a additional type including parts pools and worldwide support.
the 10 330s with GE engines are not the NEOs. They are 10 A330-300s we got new from airbus about 5 years ago. Last I heard we had 0 330-300s on order.

Also not sure how much overlap there is in parts, but the 330-900 and the 350 both have RR engines.
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Just finished a couple legs with an LCP. He pretty much confirmed this. Was discussed at their last meeting. TFWIW
confirmed that they are gone in 2025 or won’t be leaving in 2025?
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Old 05-23-2021, 05:45 AM
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Just finished a couple legs with an LCP. He pretty much confirmed this. Was discussed at their last meeting. TFWIW
That meeting was in March, I'm sure it has changed a few times since then. But it could have been the plan. Then 737/787 deal fell apart and now they are back to it. So yeah maybe, but then again I've been hearing Arbi rumblings. Basically I'm saying they have several fleet plans and purchase plans and any one can have priority currently based on economics and financing.
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Old 05-23-2021, 07:39 AM
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That meeting was in March, I'm sure it has changed a few times since then. But it could have been the plan. Then 737/787 deal fell apart and now they are back to it. So yeah maybe, but then again I've been hearing Arbi rumblings. Basically I'm saying they have several fleet plans and purchase plans and any one can have priority currently based on economics and financing.
Delta keeps trying to get Boeing for Airbus prices, which Boeing is sort of ok with but the engine manufacturing groups just don't wanna deal with Deltas combative price negotiations.

I think the reality is, Delta would rather wait for something to fall in their lap last minute. They couldnt get Boeing wrapped up quickly during the pandemic (which some is more engine purchase problems not Boeing i get it) so IDK if is ever going to work out. If Airbus wants to give us cheap planes with engines on them already that's just what we will do.

This is it for a decade on clean sheet designs, theres no 797 walking through that door for 20 years, so get used to the fleet type and pray someone sells 787s on the cheap.
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Old 05-23-2021, 07:44 AM
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Delta keeps trying to get Boeing for Airbus prices, which Boeing is sort of ok with but the engine manufacturing groups just don't wanna deal with Deltas combative price negotiations.

I think the reality is, Delta would rather wait for something to fall in their lap last minute. They couldnt get Boeing wrapped up quickly during the pandemic (which some is more engine purchase problems not Boeing i get it) so IDK if is ever going to work out. If Airbus wants to give us cheap planes with engines on them already that's just what we will do.

This is it for a decade on clean sheet designs, theres no 797 walking through that door for 20 years, so get used to the fleet type and pray someone sells 787s on the cheap.
So I should have bid Airbus then?
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Old 05-23-2021, 07:47 AM
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confirmed that they are gone in 2025 or won’t be leaving in 2025?
asking the same question. LCP saying they are gone in 2025 or that they will be around longer now?
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Old 05-23-2021, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown View Post
Delta keeps trying to get Boeing for Airbus prices, which Boeing is sort of ok with but the engine manufacturing groups just don't wanna deal with Deltas combative price negotiations.



I think the reality is, Delta would rather wait for something to fall in their lap last minute. They couldnt get Boeing wrapped up quickly during the pandemic (which some is more engine purchase problems not Boeing i get it) so IDK if is ever going to work out. If Airbus wants to give us cheap planes with engines on them already that's just what we will do.



This is it for a decade on clean sheet designs, theres no 797 walking through that door for 20 years, so get used to the fleet type and pray someone sells 787s on the cheap.
This is a solid assessment. A big reason for Delta recent success is that Delta Management is absolutely Savage in negotiations especially when it comes to fleet acquisition costs. They give no quarter and want no meat left on your bones after they are done eating. Delta ate up Bombardier so badly for the 220 Boeing sued in protest

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So I should have bid Airbus then?
as long as you can tell your colors and have successfully passed the bar exam to understand laws.
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as long as you can tell your colors and have successfully passed the bar exam to understand laws.
I have, but I’m only on beginners French.
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I have, but I’m only on beginners French.
Terrible waste of brainspace that could have gone to something useful like spanish. Speaking of which, where are my cigars? I'd like to get wrapped back up in a tobacco leaf please.
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