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05-07-2021, 05:00 PM

#2731

Cldelta

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Received an email for training today, DTW 330B starting May 24th. Is this legit? Can they add training at this point in the month? This is a training award from the latest AE.

05-08-2021, 06:31 AM

#2732

tim123

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Originally Posted by Cldelta

Received an email for training today, DTW 330B starting May 24th. Is this legit? Can they add training at this point in the month? This is a training award from the latest AE.

Posted before 1800E on the 4th? Yes I believe it is legit. If not then I believe training update 20-03 outlines options.

05-08-2021, 07:05 AM

#2733

theUpsideDown

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Originally Posted by Cldelta

I Just got an email with my training schedule for DTW330B starting May 24th. My projected training was June. It this legit?

i mean... 30days?

05-08-2021, 07:35 AM

#2734

FL370esq

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Originally Posted by Cldelta

I Just got an email with my training schedule for DTW330B starting May 24th. My projected training was June. It this legit?

It is legit and permitted if the training is for an AE/VD. Per 11.F.2.a.1, all you are required is 15 days notice for qualification training (25 days notice for an MD). The "Qualification training posted before 1800E on the 4th" only applies to PBS bidding for the next month. If the company assigns training after that time (but more than 15/25 days prior), any trips PBS awards you that touch your footprint are dropped and you are paid the greater of training pay or the dropped. What the Company cannot do is pre-post training on your PBS results after 1800E on the 4th, while the bid window is still open, without your consent.

As for your projected training in June, it is just that...a projection. CR even puts a bright red disclaimer at the top of the document that says "Note: These are only projections and are subject to change."

Last edited by FL370esq; 05-08-2021 at 07:50 AM.

05-08-2021, 07:48 AM

#2735

fishforfun

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cldelta

I Just got an email with my training schedule for DTW330B starting May 24th. My projected training was June. It this legit?

If it was an AE award 15 days is the required notice.

05-08-2021, 08:51 AM

#2736

RightSide

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF

Check out ALPA Training Alert 20-02

https://www.alpa.org/dal/-/media/DAL...date-20-02.pdf

Thanks for this. Looking at this since it’s been more than 12 months since my last 320 CQ I should get the normal requal? They said I only need the short requal, just 3 sims 😳. I was under the impression I would get a few more.

05-08-2021, 09:33 AM

#2737

bsh932

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Originally Posted by RightSide

The way it has been explained to me is you need a Normal Requal when you have been unqualified for more than 12 months. You become unqualified 10 months after your CQ, so you would add 10 months to your last CQ and then add 12 more months to that. Hopefully that makes sense

05-08-2021, 10:18 AM

#2738

DWC CAP10 USAF

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Originally Posted by RightSide

not 12 months since last CQ...12 months since last time you were qualified, I.e. when your CQ zone expires.

my last CQ was March of 2020, but I last flew end of Dec 2020 which was my “must go” month for my CQ zone. My 12 month clock is starts Dec 2020

05-08-2021, 10:22 AM

#2739

theUpsideDown

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If after 3 sims i still feel like a danger to myself and others I'm gonna be that guy handing over a buncha quarters to the sim guy saying, "couple more times dad?"

05-08-2021, 10:26 AM

#2740

JamesBond

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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown

If after 3 sims i still feel like a danger to myself and others I'm gonna be that guy handing over a buncha quarters to the sim guy saying, "couple more times dad?"

That is the right thing to do. I did it on a 'normal' requal back to the -ER. It is no big deal. The only problem might be finding an available period.