theUpsideDown

It builds character!

NeverFlexTO

I think this is a good projection...I'm just outside the 400, and am thinking I'll be back. Most of the guys I've talked to that are senior to me are bypassing, due to either:

• geographical location to NYC as it relates to commuting
• unwillingness to fly the 220 for a slight pay bump but commute/and decrease in QOL
• already on Mil leave
• on a PLOA for another flying job
• can maintain good lifestyle at home with kids on 30 hours of pay come April 1
• hopes that another larger AE will come in Q2

I think you're going to see a 20-30% bypass rate here...

tunes

all are valid points except the last. if the plug got something on this bid then they would go in front of every single person that bypassed on the next bid.

m3113n1a1

Another thing to consider is the new stimulus. It might be worth risking the 30 hrs pay and staying UNA in the hopes of there being more airline grant money in this possible stimulus and you being put back on 72hrs a month while sitting at home doing nothing.
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block30

Really curious about how many bypass because of that one.

NeverFlexTO

there’s been some discussion within our UNA group and amongst some ALPA personnel that junior pilots awarded on this AE who will have not gone to training towards the tail end of the conversion, will still be considered “affected pilots” per LOA 20-04. This would mean that if another AE was published and subsequently awarded before those affected junior pilots (awarded on this Jan AE) started training, other affected pilots who were not awarded on this AE would still be able to be awarded a category of their choosing before those “affected pilots”. Again, there’s no clarity on this but LOA 20-04 specifies you’re an affected pilot until you start day 1 of training or a junior pilot starts training before you. PWA Section 22.E

example:
Plug on Jan AE gets training assigned July 1, 2021. AE comes out April 1 with 400 more positions. AE award comes out April 30 with pilots senior to plug being awarded a position before plug gets it due to both pilots still being “affected status” per LOA 20-04.

NeverFlexTO

I’ve been quite surprised by those I’ve talked to about that, because a lot of the UNA pilots are newer (less than 3 years at DL) and came from flying RJs, they haven’t changed their lifestyle a ton. Most guys are making almost a double hourly rate they were sitting in the left seat at XYZ regional. That and their wives work. A lot have expressed the cost and availability of not having to deal with childcare during this pandemic is a big factor.

Crown

my god we agree on something!

OOfff

everybody has common ground with everybody else, you just gotta find it

Buck Rogers

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