Prepare Yourselves... 2021 AEs
02-08-2021, 08:12 AM
#501
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Originally Posted by The Rover
Ah, the "it's always been that way" typical Delta answer. Fair is not having a jr pilot fly 12 days before a senior one gets his first trip.
To be clear, I don't think it'll change unless the majority (junior pilots) want it. I'm in the top half of the list.
To be clear, I don't think it'll change unless the majority (junior pilots) want it. I'm in the top half of the list.
Denny
02-08-2021, 10:12 AM
#502
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,416
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I don’t know how long you’ve been here but it has not “always been this way” with reserve. When I was hired there was no such thing as a RAW score etc. Assigning trips on reserve always went to the junior guy until s/he was filled up. This is exactly the problem, from a company perspective, the RAW system was designed to solve. It keeps some semblance of seniority while allowing reserve flying to be spread out more equitably. The same thing applies to Greenslip’s. It used to be strictly seniority based only. Not the current senior guy gets one then goes to bottom of list for the month.
Denny
Denny
02-08-2021, 11:16 AM
#503
Super Moderator
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 6,868
Originally Posted by The Rover
I simply responded to post 479 (TED), which asked the question of how to spread out the flying during unprecedented times. I responded, change the RAW score system as an answer to the question. I never mentioned a change to seniority, I suggested a different system, one where after a reserve flies, they go to the bottom of the availability list. Again, a suggestion to a posted question. A number of you proceeded to imply things I never said, including a moderator (scoop).
You guys make chit chat look like a friendly place.
You guys make chit chat look like a friendly place.
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Scoop
02-08-2021, 12:52 PM
#504
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,027
Originally Posted by The Rover
I simply responded to post 479 (TED), which asked the question of how to spread out the flying during unprecedented times. I responded, change the RAW score system as an answer to the question. I never mentioned a change to seniority, I suggested a different system, one where after a reserve flies, they go to the bottom of the availability list. Again, a suggestion to a posted question. A number of you proceeded to imply things I never said, including a moderator (scoop).
You guys make chit chat look like a friendly place.
You guys make chit chat look like a friendly place.
If you think you are flying too much relative to your peers figure out what they are doing. It probably includes NOT being junior in the seat. If you have no choices as of the latest AE then you are truly junior and will just have to wait. I wait until a minimum of 80% in category before I bid it. I have never been disappointed. I also bid reserve intentionally both international and domestic. Contact someone on the PBS committee to help you bid, it does wonders to know the contract and the PBS logic.
02-08-2021, 02:34 PM
#505
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 199
I would say the only portion that is weird for seniority purposes is that una’s are not flying and getting full pay. But that will end and they will go back to 30 hours of pay. So everyone right now is having to sacrifice something. Even senior people on narrow body fleets are flying.
02-08-2021, 03:08 PM
#506
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,547
Originally Posted by AlphaBeta
I would say the only portion that is weird for seniority purposes is that una’s are not flying and getting full pay. But that will end and they will go back to 30 hours of pay. So everyone right now is having to sacrifice something. Even senior people on narrow body fleets are flying.
02-08-2021, 05:44 PM
#510
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Capt
Posts: 2,023
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
while there seem to be some things at DL where seniority is weighed too heavily (IMO pass travel should be time of check in not DOH, but I know not everyone agrees and I respect that) .
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