When Section 6 starts up again...
03-20-2021, 11:22 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Actually, no that is not the case. Delta doesn't even pay my tax bill, but thanks for playing. I just wondered if any lessons were learned during all this..
03-20-2021, 11:50 AM
#24
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Scope protection is the tide that lifts most boats. With appropriate pay, this career offers plenty for retirement, even if it isn’t all specifically tagged “retirement.” Everyone has different needs - save or spend as much as you’d like. My limited polling leads me to believe the true dead-zoners are either gone or so limited in numbers as to be a small “special interest” group that needn’t drive all of this pilot group’s priorities. Obviously, vote for the representatives and TAs you find most appealing. Before covid, plenty of pilots were leaving early to sail off into the proverbial sunset - that tells me the retirement pain has had abundant time to heal. I know it isn’t what was “promised”, and we’ve all now seen what “promises” to new hires are worth in this industry. Painful lessons all around, for sure.
03-20-2021, 11:52 AM
#25
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Scope, QOL, pay, in that order.
Unless someone can give me hard data on DZers, such as who they are, how far down below retirement glide path they are, and how many they are, then I tend to assume that there aren’t any left and the plus up is just a money grab by senior pilots about to retire.
I would welcome having my mind changed, and shown what the actual need is, but I haven’t seen any real data at all. Until then, I’m not interested in the most senior of us blowing smoke up my *** about how my career will be so much better than theirs and that there will never be a hard time for me. Because we literally are in a hard time, and the ONLY reason I’m not furloughed is because of the federal government.
Unless someone can give me hard data on DZers, such as who they are, how far down below retirement glide path they are, and how many they are, then I tend to assume that there aren’t any left and the plus up is just a money grab by senior pilots about to retire.
I would welcome having my mind changed, and shown what the actual need is, but I haven’t seen any real data at all. Until then, I’m not interested in the most senior of us blowing smoke up my *** about how my career will be so much better than theirs and that there will never be a hard time for me. Because we literally are in a hard time, and the ONLY reason I’m not furloughed is because of the federal government.
03-20-2021, 11:58 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
Scope, QoL, pay, in that order.
03-20-2021, 12:19 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Just curious. Have any views changed on here concerning any retirement restoration for the guys in the retirement window (i.e. deadzoners) and/or revisiting a different kind of retirement plan other than a 401k?
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03-20-2021, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MJP27
The fact is there is always a black swan event out there. What's the next one?
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