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Speed Select 04-04-2021 02:39 PM

When do contract negotiations resume?

BigHitterLlama 04-04-2021 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Speed Select (Post 3216730)
When do contract negotiations resume?

Hopefully not for a while.

DeltaboundRedux 04-04-2021 02:59 PM

Good question.

I'd love to see some contractual protections prohibiting formal and trackable DIE/CRT training.

But I'm a Martin Luther King man myself. Woefully behind the times.


(If you haven't read/listened to the Taylor Branch MLK trilogy and work for a southern company; well, you really should. Like Ghandi and Fredrick Douglas, the man had his faults, but Jeebus...what an orator. But MLK is sooooo passé. You can get fired for adhering to the MLK line now.)

tunes 04-04-2021 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 3216714)
Illegal reroutes are back in full force. I guess the new ALPA reps helping scheduling out are saying just cover trips anyway you can.

the position hasn’t started yet

FL370esq 04-04-2021 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 3216714)
Illegal reroutes are back in full force.

What reroutes are happening that are "illegal?" Don't just throw out a conclusion. Give examples so your fellow pilots can learn and say no to prevent them.

fishforfun 04-04-2021 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Jp8burner (Post 3216724)
Yep, I got called for lots of GS grips...but they are such crap trips these days that in the end just couldn’t pull the trigger!

Maybe if we did less optimizing of trips more would be picked up in open time or as GS. I look thorough open time and put specific trips as a GS. I won’t Jen look at 90% of them.

tripled 04-04-2021 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Bergman (Post 3216587)
Exactly right. They may have saved $5000/mo per pilot by displacments and UNA but the $50,000+ sim cost to switch jets quickly eats up that savings, notwithstanding the cost of the current personnel crisis. They were trying to stick it to the pilot group.

Let’s wait and see. I think an element of dal strategy was to freeze as many pilots into a seat lock as possible, thereby minimizing future churn and training cost. An embarrassing Easter weekend could simply be the ‘datapoint’ to prove its time to move on to the next step of the plan.

Perhaps they could issue training bypasses on this next bid for NBa -> WBa and also for mid seniority FO’s who bid WB b or NB a? I didn’t think they would do that but who knows, maybe it’s acceptable to pay some FO’s taxpayer-funded captain pay to stay put for a while.

And to stay with the context above this post: open time trips these days stink but IA’s don’t care. IA be like the honey badger.

Ragtop Day 04-04-2021 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3216832)
Maybe if we did less optimizing of trips more would be picked up in open time or as GS. I look thorough open time and put specific trips as a GS. I won’t Jen look at 90% of them.

Lots of truth right here. Phone rang all weekend with early show 3 leg day, short layover, 3 leg day or 8+ hour block day GS’s. Not commuting in a day early over a holiday weekend to get beat up.

TegridyFarms 04-04-2021 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Ragtop Day (Post 3216858)
Lots of truth right here. Phone rang all weekend with early show 3 leg day, short layover, 3 leg day or 8+ hour block day GS’s. Not commuting in a day early over a holiday weekend to get beat up.

Same boat here. Tons of green slip opportunities this weekend. But a DH + 4 legs a day on days 1/3 don’t work for me for any amount of $$$$.

It’s ok. Read the comments in this article. We are so woke that soon we won’t need all these pilots. https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/delta-cancels-over-100-flights-as-pandemic-travel-soars

MooseMuss 04-04-2021 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by TegridyFarms (Post 3216872)
Same boat here. Tons of green slip opportunities this weekend. But a DH + 4 legs a day on days 1/3 don’t work for me for any amount of $$$$.

It’s ok. Read the comments in this article. We are so woke that soon we won’t need all these pilots. https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/delta-cancels-over-100-flights-as-pandemic-travel-soars

How much longer does the board retain its confidence in our CEO?


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