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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3216552)

so they MOAD'd before they VEOP's and they didn't SIL.

I commend you on your most excellent use of acronyms! You must have been a screen writer for Good Morning Vietnam. 😊

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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3216550)

Yes....and they divided their group into thirds. The top third took a 10% ALV cut, the middle third a 20% ALV cut and the bottom third a 50% cut all in an attempt to eliminate furloughs(lots of other moving parts in there) But still, I stand by the assertion that most Delta posters opining about their deal were uniformly negative and expressed a sentiment of "UAL sold us (Delta) down the river".

When does reading the tea leaves properly constitute being astute and when does it just become "luck"?

Their deal was terrible for the pilot group and all pilot groups, to an extent. There were small details that made it good for some in their group and one very small but very important detail that made it very advantageous for the company. No matter what hours you dropped down to in their deal they had to WORK for them. By working they stayed current. Our fate was sealed with the MOAD. It had nothing to do with our deal. Our fate was sealed when we chose our cut with an ax path vs the tempered and educated approach SW took.

We are now behind the training curve and will just play whack a mole for then next 2-3+ years. Or lose market share. It’s just that simple.

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Originally Posted by crzepilot (Post 3216386)

Maybe in years past when there were pilots who did GS on holidays have finally eliminated their goodwill to the company. Delta has attempted at every turn of the Pandemic to scam us. And this staffing issue has been going on for the last 4 months. Who the hell makes a schedule knowing full well they don’t have the minimum number of pilots? And frankly if I have to turn down another ****ty turkey sandwich, I’m going to puke. I literally Blocked Delta’s number that they use to make inverse assignment calls because I have been getting them for the last 3 months pretty regularly up to 3 times a day on my days off. This isn’t vaccine problems. And evening I did schedule the vaccine of days off it’s sort of hard to fly with the required 48:00 waiting period when my f’ing schedule was built with 72 hours off in between the majority of my rotations. That memo was ridiculous. Maybe Laughter could help out and come fly a rotation...oh wait a minute...

I get that were are in the middle of a pandemic but 1.) everyone knew last summer that vaccines were coming soon and someone somewhere at Delta had to say, “hey, maybe we should rethink travel demand and get ahead of the curve.” And 2.) didn’t the government basically pick up all labor costs for most of the year? Why would you not get people in a position where they could actually work?

It’s obvious that management’s guess that this would be a 5 year recovery was a bit pessimistic. We overreacted. We “over-indexed.”

Let the premium pay flow like chocolate from a fountain at a hotel Easter buffet (for the next few years.)

Management desire to thrust pilots into the useless and highly inefficient UNA status is what I believe caused each of our numerous meltdowns. To my knowledge, no other carrier used this “novel” technique to save pennies on the dollar. You get what you pay for.

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Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3216579)

Exactly right. They may have saved $5000/mo per pilot by displacments and UNA but the $50,000+ sim cost to switch jets quickly eats up that savings, notwithstanding the cost of the current personnel crisis. They were trying to stick it to the pilot group.

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Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3216570)

Their deal was terrible for the pilot group and all pilot groups, to an extent.

Thank you for settling that for everybody. I am sure 100% of the UAL would agree with you( at least you seem to think so).

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Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 3216530)

More like disappointed our "'A' student" came home with a D- on the big math test.

More like figuring out our A student (Ed) was a D- student all along but was making A’s only because he was copying Richard’s answers. Once he lost his cheat sheet the true grades came through...

“Delta teams have been working through various factors, including staffing, large numbers of employee vaccinations and pilots returning to active status. We apologize to our customers for the inconvenience and the majority have been rebooked for the same travel day.”
-Delta PR

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Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 3216568)

I commend you on your most excellent use of acronyms! You must have been a screen writer for Good Morning Vietnam. 😊

or a tech writer for Airbus.