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Originally Posted by Rooster435
(Post 3248873)
Yep, although some of the 737 categories aren’t getting a lot either.
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Originally Posted by GucciBoy
(Post 3248629)
If you have to ask, you don’t read his posts regularly…
Any pilot who would side with management making a few extra coins, what amounts to budget dust for the company, over the ridiculous reroute shenanigans going on with fellow pilots desires to be called out for it. |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3248896)
I do read Sailing's post regularly, it was a rhetorical question. And it was spot on.
Any pilot who would side with management making a few extra coins, what amounts to budget dust for the company, over the ridiculous reroute shenanigans going on with fellow pilots desires to be called out for it. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3248904)
Never said a thing about getting paid extra for reroutes. I was discussing the reroute process in general. Most on here seem to feel however that every reroute should get premium pay and that we should have significantly more restrictions on reroutes. I can assure you that the cost would be way beyond a few coins. Based on the forum statements of how often people are being rerouted it would probably fund a 15% pay raise for the entire pilot group.
If management is as good as some folks say they are, that number would be budget dust. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3248904)
Never said a thing about getting paid extra for reroutes. I was discussing the reroute process in general. Most on here seem to feel however that every reroute should get premium pay and that we should have significantly more restrictions on reroutes. I can assure you that the cost would be way beyond a few coins. Based on the forum statements of how often people are being rerouted it would probably fund a 15% pay raise for the entire pilot group.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3248908)
The context of the discussion was absolutely about premium pay for reroutes... But for the sake of argument, let's say you are right about 15%. The company would have a serious disincentive for reroute shenanigans. THAT is the point. It's not about us making more, it's about stopping the QOL decline. But if they do it anyway "for operational necessity", we are compensated accordingly.
If management is as good as some folks say they are, that number would be budget dust. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3248904)
… Based on the forum statements of how often people are being rerouted it would probably fund a 15% pay raise for the entire pilot group.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3248908)
The context of the discussion was absolutely about premium pay for reroutes... But for the sake of argument, let's say you are right about 15%. The company would have a serious disincentive for reroute shenanigans. THAT is the point. It's not about us making more, it's about stopping the QOL decline. But if they do it anyway "for operational necessity", we are compensated accordingly.
If management is as good as some folks say they are, that number would be budget dust. The company has to be able to operate the airline. The operation would crumble without the flexibility reroute provides. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3248930)
Let me ask you what you define as reroute shenanigans? I do realize in the heat of the moment they do make some stupid reroute decisions but for the most part they are trying to keep the operation running efficiently and on time. There are often factors pilots are unaware of in reroute decisions. I was once pulled off a flight at the last moment to operate another flight of what I perceived equal importance. My flight was cancelled. I demanded a explanation via FCR and found that the passengers on my flight could be accommodated on other airlines but the flight I was moved to that would not work. EU rules meant it would have been extremely expensive to not move us over. If you handcuff the company with rules or make it too expensive to reroute the operation is going to suffer. That drives customers away who provide our paychecks.
The company has to be able to operate the airline. The operation would crumble without the flexibility reroute provides. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3248846)
I would rather work for a highly successful airline because that more than any other factor is what will determine the outcome of my career. Delta is well staffed at the moment for pilots. They just don’t have them in the right seats.
In the times Delta ran a crappy airline losses to the pilot group went way beyond profit sharing. |
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