Thanks Lee. To me, it seemed pretty reasonable to avert furloughs. Interesting how on these boards there can only be one solution. You guys had a lot of moving parts' but the detractors only want to paint one pic as do the supporters. Always good to get more info of a reasonable nature. Cheers' Buck

 

While I realize that this is a Delta Forum, I feel I needed to weigh in after a comment-
IMHO, anyone against it was looking at “how does it affect me today” vice where we will be at some point in the not too distant future.
Both Delta and United are ALPA. Yet we have both gone in different directions.
Delta seems to have held the line and allowed the Pilot group to dictate the direction of the MEC via survey, time and a vote.
We did things differently. MEC went along with the company, no survey and then the rush to vote.

I was an adamant NO Voter and still am. We got lucky (you are right!).
I (and most) would never have believed there would be a Cares Act 3. Let along that companies would Hire and/or cancel flights AFTER taking the money!
I voted NO BECAUSE I believe in Seniority, I believe in Unionism. Not because of how it affects me today but HOW does it affect me AND my pilot group (and Profession) in the future.

Who knows how long EB remains at the helm of Delta, or TI remains at the helm of UAL/ALPA?
All about Luck (as u stated) but also about timing.

Unionism use to stand for something. It's been misplaced (or divided into 3rds!) on our side, hopefully it's not lost at this side.

Good Luck Delta ALPA ( and pilot group!)
Hold the line
Fly Safe, Fly Professionally and Fly the Contract~
Always
Motch

PS)
3 Yrs 5 Months 17 Days-
Since TI and our union stated they were working with management to get a new UPA (at amendable date)
2 Yrs, 2 Months, 5 Days-
Since our UPA became amendable
1 Yr, 3 Months, 4 Days-
Since 2/3rds of this pilot group saw a pay raise, though about a 3rd does have the opportunity to bid into a higher seat (maybe)

 

I disagree with about 98% of what you say but that was funny. Maybe I could share a cockpit with you.

 

on a totally unrelated (politically) note, looks like they are removing the seat cap for good. But looks like non-revs get the short end of the stick. Not sure how to read the memo quite honestly. On DL Net

 

While we're comparing strategies during the pandemic not sure I'd want to trade places with United pilots. United flies about 250 more RJ's than we do (DL 344, UAL 599, AAL 560) while we brought the 717 and A220s into the mainline fleet. That's quite a few mainline jobs. When I look around at the "partnerships" at AAL with JetBlue and Alaska, I think we're in a pretty good spot as a pilot group. We also instantly add near 30% capacity when the middle seat block goes away. We'll be fine IMO.

 

So......via flightaware, Delta at ZERO cancellations for today.

137 flights "delayed", which isn't something to write home about, but vastly better than "cancelled".

Peeps remember "cancelled" for the rest of their lives.

They'll forget "delayed" (if they don't miss connections) as soon as they read their next tweet/instagram/swipe left/right.

So...good news. Generally speaking.

 

Just imagine how many RJs our management would be flying if the PWA permitted 600. They’d probably have an “oops” and fly 750.

 

True about the RJs, but they also fly many more widebodies. My buddies hired close to the same time as me here at the D are going to be able to hold WB captain at about 45 years old. We are parking ours...

 

Size doesn’t matter....or so we’re all told


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Just read the "update" and it's a bit confusing. Interesting enough, the update is in the FlightOps memo and there's nothing about it on the InFlight side.