They were running weekly classes starting on Tuesdays, then suddenly they just switched to running classes every 2 weeks starting on a Monday because of reasons. How long it will last is anyone's guess, but for now it seems to be the class plan going forward.

 

Classes currently start on Monday, every other week. Don’t be that person who thought class started on a Tuesday and turned up a day late…

 

This! I won’t even fly through NYC.

 

It's more enjoyable than flying through ATL!

 

Agreed!
Bid Avoid = ATL...SLC training center can't come soon enough

 

What's wrong with ATL? It's so easy to fly in and out of there. Almost as easy as MSP but without the constant runway changes.

NYC on the other hand is the one place I've ever taxied for 3 hours, the controllers are perpetually angry and they love making you go fast, then slow you down, then immediately get mad at you for not slowing down fast enough.

 

Does anyone know, does being a former Delta Private Jets employee count? The company was fully owned by Delta and they had Delta benefits. Does anyone know a way to find out if DPJ jumps the SSN order?

 

ATL is the best designed airport in the world, bar none. Ain't even close. Which makes it predicable. And easy. I genuinely don't get the angst.

However, if the argument is that touching ATL makes you more susceptible to a reroute, I might concede that point. But with the new reroute rules starting 1 Aug, I'm actually okay with that.

 

Volume of traffic is the big differentiator here, but it just adds to the reasons folks don't like flying there. I think DTW is far more predictable and a better layout, especially when you consider the E/W runways are pretty much indefinitely closed. You almost never have to cross an active runway, and if you do, it's rarely more than a 30 second wait. I almost never have to sit "in the alley" to wait for traffic to move to get to my gate...in fact, I rarely have to stop rolling. A "busy" lineup is 2 or 3 jets (read fewer delays/less reroute potential). They almost exclusively stick to the runway for the arrival you're on (I'll concede that, post rona, ATL seems to be doing a better job at this...or maybe it's because I avoid ATL lol). I'm rarely slowed, held or vectored off the arrival for spacing to rejoin later. Even if forced to walk A1 to A78 in DTW, it's generally quicker than going from T4 to A30 in ATL (nevermind going to C52). I rarely have to wade through a sea of people in DTW. I almost always keep the jet when I pass through DTW (another big factor).


But yes your second point is the biggest factor for why I often bid avoid if landing in ATL. For me, it's reroute city. The only time I've been rerouted on my current plane was on days I was flying through ATL. Two of the biggest factors I've seen that greatly impact your chances for a reroute...flying past 1300-1400 and landings in ATL.

 

LOL best designed. It's not predictable you littery have a 33% chance at briefing the correct runway. The published arrivals state the exact wrong runway as the default. You are better off not guessing and reacting to the actual assignment and occasionally that gets changed too. The design of the airport may be good but the use of it to serve the pilots, which is the ATC customer base, is terrible. Down to the refusing to use the new loop and the M2 BS. DEN is a much better design.