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Old 11-04-2021 | 04:34 PM
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Hey, Drum is it? - honest question - I passed on the SSP. Now, I've decided to take the flow. Am I welcome or should I be ashamed for not taking the opportunity to interview years back? I passed to take care of a family member (if that even matters, but now it's over) and I'd still love to fly for mainline. Should I pass on the flow and wait for an interview? And FWIW (pm me if you don't get the shorthand) I hold a degree and had an offer from UPS.

So, when I sit in your right seat and you learn I'm an EDV peep, will you even ask past that? Or just tell me how I'm a second class pilot and don't have any idea what the Delta standard is really about? Honestly I hope to change your mind and together we can both keep this airline the envy of most pilots. But if I never get the chance to fly with you, I guess I'd be OK with that too. I'll help make it better without you.
don’t worry about drum. He’s an extreme outlier, and not in the good way
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Old 11-04-2021 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by better up here
Hey, Drum is it? - honest question - I passed on the SSP. Now, I've decided to take the flow. Am I welcome or should I be ashamed for not taking the opportunity to interview years back? I passed to take care of a family member (if that even matters, but now it's over) and I'd still love to fly for mainline. Should I pass on the flow and wait for an interview? And FWIW (pm me if you don't get the shorthand) I hold a degree and had an offer from UPS.

So, when I sit in your right seat and you learn I'm an EDV peep, will you even ask past that? Or just tell me how I'm a second class pilot and don't have any idea what the Delta standard is really about? Honestly I hope to change your mind and together we can both keep this airline the envy of most pilots. But if I never get the chance to fly with you, I guess I'd be OK with that too. I'll help make it better without you.
I can't speak for everyone here at Delta, but no one behaves like that in a cockpit that I've ever seen. I'd even go further and say once you're wearing the uniform we are very friendly to everyone in company. Kind of a happy cult. I would lay a few bucks even Drum is a different entity in person and doesn't fully realize how bad he comes off online.

With all that said, there is definitely some distrust of the newhires and soon to be new captains from the old timers. Ive had at least two tell me "when i retire I'm not flying anymore, I don't like all the young people everywhere being captains". And that was a sentiment by the adled and angry when i was a regional captain from old timers and even the FAs at the regionals. It's just an age dynamic that ive seen before.

There's a generation gap here and it's going to get larger. Plus the feeling of being left out (deadzoner) of the few good times we had is real from some captains. They don't say it to be mean, in fact many are shocked they are going to retire with a higher number than I'll ever get, but theres a weird culture here of "i never got mine, and the 20k-80k you made is meaningless because some pilots here-that arent you-;are going to retire with 35years or more". Its a very "me-me-me" culture from 20% of captains in a junior base like nyc for instance.
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Old 11-04-2021 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by better up here
Hey, Drum is it? - honest question - I passed on the SSP. Now, I've decided to take the flow. Am I welcome or should I be ashamed for not taking the opportunity to interview years back? I passed to take care of a family member (if that even matters, but now it's over) and I'd still love to fly for mainline. Should I pass on the flow and wait for an interview? And FWIW (pm me if you don't get the shorthand) I hold a degree and had an offer from UPS.

So, when I sit in your right seat and you learn I'm an EDV peep, will you even ask past that? Or just tell me how I'm a second class pilot and don't have any idea what the Delta standard is really about? Honestly I hope to change your mind and together we can both keep this airline the envy of most pilots. But if I never get the chance to fly with you, I guess I'd be OK with that too. I'll help make it better without you.
I am frequently embarrassed by his comments because it plays to the negative stereotypes of Delta. It is honestly not an accurate reflection of the people I work with and know.
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Old 11-05-2021 | 12:53 AM
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Drum must be the same guy that denied me a JS out of atl once they saw my ID badge as an edv peep. At least that's how I took it as it seemed fine til they saw where I worked. Overall I've had good experiences with mainline pilots.
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Old 11-05-2021 | 03:45 AM
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Will Delta continue to train new classes thru December? Or will there be a slow down in the training department over the holiday period?
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Old 11-05-2021 | 03:51 AM
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Does anyone know what equipment has gone most junior in the last couple classes? I know it will vary based on everyone’s specific wants but just wondering since I’ll most likely be the plug
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Originally Posted by Yuko
Will Delta continue to train new classes thru December? Or will there be a slow down in the training department over the holiday period?
In year past (pre-covid), they would normally have one giant Indoc class than ran the first two weeks of Dec, so no Indoc over Christmas.

However, the sims run almost 365...they are closed on Christmas, but I think I read somewhere recently of someone who was starting their IQ sims on the 26th, so depending on the start time, maybe a travel day late on the 25th.
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Old 11-05-2021 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Simpsons
Does anyone know what equipment has gone most junior in the last couple classes? I know it will vary based on everyone’s specific wants but just wondering since I’ll most likely be the plug
From the Nov seniority list, the plug of the 9/14, 9/21, 10/5, and 10/12 class all got NYC220
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Old 11-05-2021 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by better up here
Hey, Drum is it? - honest question - I passed on the SSP. Now, I've decided to take the flow. Am I welcome or should I be ashamed for not taking the opportunity to interview years back? I passed to take care of a family member (if that even matters, but now it's over) and I'd still love to fly for mainline. Should I pass on the flow and wait for an interview? And FWIW (pm me if you don't get the shorthand) I hold a degree and had an offer from UPS.

So, when I sit in your right seat and you learn I'm an EDV peep, will you even ask past that? Or just tell me how I'm a second class pilot and don't have any idea what the Delta standard is really about? Honestly I hope to change your mind and together we can both keep this airline the envy of most pilots. But if I never get the chance to fly with you, I guess I'd be OK with that too. I'll help make it better without you.
I don't think he quite realizes that there are a lot of people at DAL that never went through the DAL interview....
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Old 11-05-2021 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
From the Nov seniority list, the plug of the 9/14, 9/21, 10/5, and 10/12 class all got NYC220

Our class it’s the 220 and 717, a buddy of mine got the 717 as his 5th choice. I picked up the 717 as first because of location. Each class will be slightly different but most of my class had the 320, 73, 7ER as their top three choices.


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