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Old 09-25-2021 | 02:44 PM
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Point of order:

I believe it's possible to be a "dues paying non-member".

Not much point to that though.

Pointless, really.

Happy to have pointed that out.
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Old 09-25-2021 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Point of order:

I believe it's possible to be a "dues paying non-member".

Not much point to that though.

Pointless, really.

Happy to have pointed that out.
Nailed it
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Old 09-25-2021 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Drum

There are other examples, like reserve rules, coverage awards and the litany of things we like to ***** about contract wise. This isn't a regional, where he "served" before. I don't think he has very good grasp of DAL history with the pilot group and our contract evolutions. JM did.

28% turnout, certainly not a mandate. I guess I should expect this from now on.

JMHO.
Bold added for emphasis.

What? Does being in a union at a regional not count or something?

Also, I don't know why I'm bothering.
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Old 09-25-2021 | 05:18 PM
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Drum being Dumb. Nothing to see here folks.
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Old 09-25-2021 | 07:02 PM
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Good thing we got all the military folks and all their union expertise.
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Old 09-26-2021 | 08:25 AM
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Ugh not this "issue" again...

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Old 09-26-2021 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Good thing we got all the military folks and all their union expertise.
Once upon a time prolly 90% of all Delta pilot new hires were ex military. Consequently,they also are the ones who became union volunteers and reps. They did alot to fix some of the most onerous parts of the contract over the years. Why the hate? A stronger more unified results when everyone rows together.
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Old 09-26-2021 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies
Bold added for emphasis.

What? Does being in a union at a regional not count or something?

Also, I don't know why I'm bothering.
Yes. To some extent. Just like being a manager of a AA team is not the same as being a manager in the majors. Different set of issues and scales of economy. Plus as a regional we were mostly FFD.

I worked at a regional as well. Funny you guys seem to forget that part when bashing me.

WHen I have issues with kompany, I don't want a kompany man to be my representative to them.

His answers to my interrogatives were really no different than comms with the CPO or what I read in the FLT OPs bulletins. I wouldn't be surprised to see him working in the CPO or some management function In the very near future. Seems we have something if a revolving door here.

He should take a class on unionism from the Council 16 reps.

JMHO.
Hey on that note, didn't DALPA say we'd have the email survey out in early Sept? It's almost October. Wonder what the delay is?
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Old 09-26-2021 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Once upon a time prolly 90% of all Delta pilot new hires were ex military. Consequently,they also are the ones who became union volunteers and reps. They did alot to fix some of the most onerous parts of the contract over the years. Why the hate? A stronger more unified results when everyone rows together.
Some how our degrees in Engineering, the applied sciences, time in DC working in the acquisition budgeting, strategic planning, attaches at US Embassies, foreign service officers, pol mil advisors no, none of that prepares us for anything. Many bring a few decades of experience in with them outside of aviation.

But most certainly a degree from ERAU or some other "Harvard of the sky" and a few years at a regional make you any better?

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I don't think so.

Buck makes a good point here.
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Old 09-26-2021 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Drum
Some how our degrees in Engineering, the applied sciences, time in DC working in the acquisition budgeting, strategic planning, attaches at US Embassies, foreign service officers, pol mil advisors no, none of that prepares us for anything. Many bring a few decades of experience in with them outside of aviation.

But most certainly a degree from ERAU or some other "Harvard of the sky" and a few years at a regional make you any better?

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I don't think so.

Buck makes a good point here.
Working in a union at an airline with a far more hostile management group prepares you more for working in a union here than does anything you listed. But please, tell me more about how "awesome" you are and anyone that didn't go military is scum of the earth.
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