NYC C66 First Officer Election
09-26-2021 | 10:10 AM
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Once upon a time prolly 90% of all Delta pilot new hires were ex military. Consequently,they also are the ones who became union volunteers and reps. They did alot to fix some of the most onerous parts of the contract over the years. Why the hate? A stronger more unified results when everyone rows together.
09-26-2021 | 10:12 AM
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Once upon a time prolly 90% of all Delta pilot new hires were ex military. Consequently,they also are the ones who became union volunteers and reps. They did alot to fix some of the most onerous parts of the contract over the years. Why the hate? A stronger more unified results when everyone rows together.
09-26-2021 | 01:28 PM
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Once upon a time prolly 90% of all Delta pilot new hires were ex military. Consequently,they also are the ones who became union volunteers and reps. They did alot to fix some of the most onerous parts of the contract over the years. Why the hate? A stronger more unified results when everyone rows together.
09-26-2021 | 01:44 PM
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Yes. To some extent. Just like being a manager of a AA team is not the same as being a manager in the majors. Different set of issues and scales of economy. Plus as a regional we were mostly FFD.
I worked at a regional as well. Funny you guys seem to forget that part when bashing me.
WHen I have issues with kompany, I don't want a kompany man to be my representative to them.
His answers to my interrogatives were really no different than comms with the CPO or what I read in the FLT OPs bulletins. I wouldn't be surprised to see him working in the CPO or some management function In the very near future. Seems we have something if a revolving door here.
He should take a class on unionism from the Council 16 reps.
JMHO.
Hey on that note, didn't DALPA say we'd have the email survey out in early Sept? It's almost October. Wonder what the delay is?
I worked at a regional as well. Funny you guys seem to forget that part when bashing me.
WHen I have issues with kompany, I don't want a kompany man to be my representative to them.
His answers to my interrogatives were really no different than comms with the CPO or what I read in the FLT OPs bulletins. I wouldn't be surprised to see him working in the CPO or some management function In the very near future. Seems we have something if a revolving door here.
He should take a class on unionism from the Council 16 reps.
JMHO.
Hey on that note, didn't DALPA say we'd have the email survey out in early Sept? It's almost October. Wonder what the delay is?
And asking about a remark you made about a fellow pilot who volunteered for union work at a regional is not "bashing" you.
Once upon a time prolly 90% of all Delta pilot new hires were ex military. Consequently,they also are the ones who became union volunteers and reps. They did alot to fix some of the most onerous parts of the contract over the years. Why the hate? A stronger more unified results when everyone rows together.
09-26-2021 | 10:59 PM
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Especially those foisted upon a 28% of population vote (perhaps the saddest part of this evolution).
I voiced my opinion based on my interactions. I do care, that is why I communicte with my reps.
Again. JMHO.
09-27-2021 | 12:08 AM
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That sounds like a bigot. To malign a whole group of people because you are not in that group and draw broad sweeping conclusions based on , in this case, 1 individual. Yea, that sounds reasonable….NOT!, …. Therefor the push back. Kinda offense to me and 50% of his Delta brethren…. JMHO
09-27-2021 | 04:21 AM
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That sounds like a bigot. To malign a whole group of people because you are not in that group and draw broad sweeping conclusions based on , in this case, 1 individual. Yea, that sounds reasonable….NOT!, …. Therefor the push back. Kinda offense to me and 50% of his Delta brethren…. JMHO
No one said anything disparaging about mil pilots Buck. Last time I checked military pilots (as in those on active duty or serving in the reserves) are not represented by a union. It has been my experience that many people who just separated from the military (pilots or otherwise) don’t understand or fully appreciate what a union does and why they are good because it has not been part of their life before. That’s not to say they can’t learn, but it is not a given. compare that to many civilian pilots have worked at union shops before, (or at the case of skywest they at least have seen via their competitors the benefits of unions) have volunteered in union activities, been reps, etc.
the military, in many ways, very design and function is counter to what a union typically strives for. It’s not a leap to assume that those getting out of the military are not savvy on union workings
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