Too many hours?
#11
- low college GPA (was told Delta required a 3.5 GPA or higher)
- no check airman experience (check airman was the magic ticket, or so we were told)
- a lot of turboprop PIC time (doesn't count)
- had been terminated from a job (not a flying job, but a termination = kiss of death)
- no military (Delta only hires military)
The point is, I am the poster child of "not a Delta pilot" and yet here I am. I know a lot of people who are in the same boat. I applied, hustled at job fairs, got into the training department, worked really hard at making that application sharp, and got the email. Your friend can too. But it's more than just applying. Get the letters of recommendation, do the job fairs when they start up again, and honestly, cast a wide net. Delta may not be the landing spot, but United, American, FedEx, UPS, JetBlue, who knows who thinks he'd be a good fit at their airline?
- no check airman experience (check airman was the magic ticket, or so we were told)
- a lot of turboprop PIC time (doesn't count)
- had been terminated from a job (not a flying job, but a termination = kiss of death)
- no military (Delta only hires military)
The point is, I am the poster child of "not a Delta pilot" and yet here I am. I know a lot of people who are in the same boat. I applied, hustled at job fairs, got into the training department, worked really hard at making that application sharp, and got the email. Your friend can too. But it's more than just applying. Get the letters of recommendation, do the job fairs when they start up again, and honestly, cast a wide net. Delta may not be the landing spot, but United, American, FedEx, UPS, JetBlue, who knows who thinks he'd be a good fit at their airline?
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Struck up a conversation with a seasoned RJ LCA. Been at XYZ for 15 years. Happy where they are at but was a bit deterred about applying due to being told once upon a time that having too many hours/ years at a regional was a knock against you?
Once I answers the “what’s it like” type questions, he seemed a bit intrigued. Thoughts on the length of service being counted against someone applying?
Once I answers the “what’s it like” type questions, he seemed a bit intrigued. Thoughts on the length of service being counted against someone applying?
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I heard this a lot at my regional. I often heard it from longtime CAs who had applied and were (rightly) discouraged they never got the call but all their FOs with no PIC did. BUT, when I dug deeper usually the only thing the CAs did was apply, and the FOs did volunteering, job fairs, LoRs, etc.
I think there is some truth to it, and that industry wide many airlines believe past a certain point you are harder to train and harder to mold into what they want. That being said, if you have many other good quals like LCA, etc. it's probably just another +/- in the points system. If you have enough good to out-weigh the 'bad' (if flight time is bad
) then you'll get the call somewhere (even if it's not DAL).
I think there is some truth to it, and that industry wide many airlines believe past a certain point you are harder to train and harder to mold into what they want. That being said, if you have many other good quals like LCA, etc. it's probably just another +/- in the points system. If you have enough good to out-weigh the 'bad' (if flight time is bad
) then you'll get the call somewhere (even if it's not DAL).Isn't that still a pretty small minority of folks though? I spent a lot of time at the regional's, and occasionally you would hear about a no PIC time FO getting snapped up, and everyone would come unglued about it (And I guess I kinda understand, I went out and earned my PIC time too, so to see a much less experienced candidate get the chance but you havent yet). But in my experience it was still a relative rarity. Or maybe I just wasn't paying hard enough attention.
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(See bold).
Isn't that still a pretty small minority of folks though? I spent a lot of time at the regional's, and occasionally you would hear about a no PIC time FO getting snapped up, and everyone would come unglued about it (And I guess I kinda understand, I went out and earned my PIC time too, so to see a much less experienced candidate get the chance but you havent yet). But in my experience it was still a relative rarity. Or maybe I just wasn't paying hard enough attention.
Isn't that still a pretty small minority of folks though? I spent a lot of time at the regional's, and occasionally you would hear about a no PIC time FO getting snapped up, and everyone would come unglued about it (And I guess I kinda understand, I went out and earned my PIC time too, so to see a much less experienced candidate get the chance but you havent yet). But in my experience it was still a relative rarity. Or maybe I just wasn't paying hard enough attention.
#16
Delta will hire people all sorts of backgrounds, lower time, high time, corporate, cargo, military. FAA violations, terminations, etc. It's all about how you approach and discuss it in the interview because think they want someone who shows maturity, takes responsibly for their choices in life and isn't trying to hide anything.
If someone stayed at a regional for 15 years when hiring opportunities and other places came and went, but said, "well, yes, I could of come to Delta 8 years ago but I was raising my kids/caring for a sick relative/financially couldn't make the jump/had other things I was doing but now I feel that I'm ready. I do bring good experience and some seasoning for my years flying the CRJ. I flew into many of Delat's hub airports but also did non-tower operations into small cities, which I think is a great variety of experience to bring to Delta" that answer will probably go over well.
If he said, "well, I didn't come to Delta 8 years ago because I didn't want to jerk gear for some 35 year old Captain who was my FO years ago. But now my regional looks to be on the rocks and basically I need another job, so I figured I'd try Delta. I mean, I've really been working for you at your wholly-owned regional forever. I'll fit right as an FO until I can upgrade again." it might be a different outcome in the interview.
It's all about how to respond to your background. No one is perfect - most everyone has something in their background that can be discussed at the interview. It's how you respond to it and explain it.
If someone stayed at a regional for 15 years when hiring opportunities and other places came and went, but said, "well, yes, I could of come to Delta 8 years ago but I was raising my kids/caring for a sick relative/financially couldn't make the jump/had other things I was doing but now I feel that I'm ready. I do bring good experience and some seasoning for my years flying the CRJ. I flew into many of Delat's hub airports but also did non-tower operations into small cities, which I think is a great variety of experience to bring to Delta" that answer will probably go over well.
If he said, "well, I didn't come to Delta 8 years ago because I didn't want to jerk gear for some 35 year old Captain who was my FO years ago. But now my regional looks to be on the rocks and basically I need another job, so I figured I'd try Delta. I mean, I've really been working for you at your wholly-owned regional forever. I'll fit right as an FO until I can upgrade again." it might be a different outcome in the interview.
It's all about how to respond to your background. No one is perfect - most everyone has something in their background that can be discussed at the interview. It's how you respond to it and explain it.
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Delta will hire people all sorts of backgrounds, lower time, high time, corporate, cargo, military. FAA violations, terminations, etc. It's all about how you approach and discuss it in the interview because think they want someone who shows maturity, takes responsibly for their choices in life and isn't trying to hide anything.
If someone stayed at a regional for 15 years when hiring opportunities and other places came and went, but said, "well, yes, I could of come to Delta 8 years ago but I was raising my kids/caring for a sick relative/financially couldn't make the jump/had other things I was doing but now I feel that I'm ready. I do bring good experience and some seasoning for my years flying the CRJ. I flew into many of Delat's hub airports but also did non-tower operations into small cities, which I think is a great variety of experience to bring to Delta" that answer will probably go over well.
If he said, "well, I didn't come to Delta 8 years ago because I didn't want to jerk gear for some 35 year old Captain who was my FO years ago. But now my regional looks to be on the rocks and basically I need another job, so I figured I'd try Delta. I mean, I've really been working for you at your wholly-owned regional forever. I'll fit right as an FO until I can upgrade again." it might be a different outcome in the interview.
It's all about how to respond to your background. No one is perfect - most everyone has something in their background that can be discussed at the interview. It's how you respond to it and explain it.
If someone stayed at a regional for 15 years when hiring opportunities and other places came and went, but said, "well, yes, I could of come to Delta 8 years ago but I was raising my kids/caring for a sick relative/financially couldn't make the jump/had other things I was doing but now I feel that I'm ready. I do bring good experience and some seasoning for my years flying the CRJ. I flew into many of Delat's hub airports but also did non-tower operations into small cities, which I think is a great variety of experience to bring to Delta" that answer will probably go over well.
If he said, "well, I didn't come to Delta 8 years ago because I didn't want to jerk gear for some 35 year old Captain who was my FO years ago. But now my regional looks to be on the rocks and basically I need another job, so I figured I'd try Delta. I mean, I've really been working for you at your wholly-owned regional forever. I'll fit right as an FO until I can upgrade again." it might be a different outcome in the interview.
It's all about how to respond to your background. No one is perfect - most everyone has something in their background that can be discussed at the interview. It's how you respond to it and explain it.
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MAKE DELTA TELL YOU "NO" then try again (or go to United which seems to be on a better run lately).
There have been many good replies in this thread. No need to reiterate what they have written. I'd just add
"I have a lot of hours because I like to fly."
Frankly, this airline needs more pilots that like to fly.
There have been many good replies in this thread. No need to reiterate what they have written. I'd just add
"I have a lot of hours because I like to fly."
Frankly, this airline needs more pilots that like to fly.
#19
actually you bring up a great point! I know a sticking point in interviews are guys who only fly 100-200 hours a year. It's one thing to work in the sim from time to time, but if that's where you make your home at the regionals, you're going to have a hard time explaining why it's been a lifelong goal to fly Delta airplanes.
#20
I was told I was too tall to fly for the Navy.
Didn't keep me from flying. Did make a couple aircraft not available to me (EA-6B, one other im forgetting)
In a twist of irony, it wasn't true then, but now I can't fly the T-6B, due to sitting height.
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Didn't keep me from flying. Did make a couple aircraft not available to me (EA-6B, one other im forgetting)
In a twist of irony, it wasn't true then, but now I can't fly the T-6B, due to sitting height.
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