Yeah, I can understand that perspective. The bottom line is that DL has plenty of qualified candidates that screening out even 5% doesn’t leave them short.

If it’s a haze, I don’t get it. If they have actual data that shows it decreases costs or increases revenue that would be interesting.

I didn’t prep well enough for the AON. I’ll take that spear.

Does Delta's version have inductive reasoning and applied numeracy?

Not sure what your point is, as you are implying that you're exposing some huge conflict in what I said.

So, again, the poster in question was saying 20 years mil flying should suffice for the silly "pilot talent" ball on a see-saw tests. I agree.

The poster in question wasn't saying he is entitled to a job; even if, under the very standard of his common sense appeal, he were to "CLEP out" of the so called cog test, he would still have to do everything else in the application and interview process.

Personally, I don't think there is much if any value in the cog tests. But even if there is some loose correlation, 20 years mil flying clearly renders it unnecessary. Not because mil is necessarily better. But mil is very consistent. Likely far more than any lose correlation in a silly cog test.

As for the rest of the interview and process, no one is disputing its validity or justification. Someone could be a triple ace space shuttle test pilot demo team door gunner with a chest full of air medals and still be a jerk a company wouldn't want to deal with.

that’s a lot of words to say “military pilots should not be subject to the same tests as others.”

Same interview, yes.

A test for the sole purpose of determining if one has the cognitive aptitude to fly? That's just silly.

so, they should not be subject to the same tests as other candidates.

Same application? Yes.

Same app scoring criteria? Yep.

Same interview? Of course.

A test to see if they have "the right stuff"? LOL nah.

Nice try with the "I WANT THE TRUTH!" schtick though.

so, again, you think military pilots should not be subject to the same tests as other candidates


weirdly, you haven’t mentioned that non-military candidates should be exempt from these tests.

Filler filler !

it is. You get to take the online test. What else do you want - a job offer because you were a military pilot? To think you are entitled to skip a test because you have a 20 yr military career is egotistical and exactly why you probably were screened out by the test.

i love the military and want the best for all veterans, but you need to earn the job like everyone else. And yes I believe propel and compass/endeavor flow earned the job - be it through different ways than OTS. Perhaps they just got lucky by being in the right place at the right time. Most of us have been on both ends of that stick. It is how the world rolls. Good for them and all those that have run the gauntlet through the traditional interview.