Delta Pilot Sues Delta

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Quote: Yes, those are all mechanical irregularities. The air carrier's maintenance system must be robust enough to address each one in the appropriate manner (MEL, CDL, NEF, etc.)
The report is made to MX, which is who determines the corrective action. Anyone can report those, a pilot is not necessary. When the report is made to MX, they determined if there is a credible irregularity, and it’s appropriate documentation. And no, none of those are mechanical irregularities unless a log book entry required response is received from MX.
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So if an FA discovers an mechanical discrepancy, but doesn’t inform anyone — they’ll hang the PIC. Understood. 🙄
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Quote: Funny, my first thought was "typical southern good ol' boy grifter" guess I was wrong, but it wasn't at all a foregone conclusion...
Fair enough... ...
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Quote: So if an FA discovers an mechanical discrepancy, but doesn’t inform anyone — they’ll hang the PIC. Understood. [emoji849]
Silly isn't it? I guess it's a decent philosophical debate but in reality it's a non issue. Plus the incident that happened was addressed long time ago shortly after flight family came out.

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Quote: So if an FA discovers an mechanical discrepancy, but doesn’t inform anyone — they’ll hang the PIC. Understood. 🙄
Happened to a friend of mine when a flight attendant called in a issue with a passenger seatbelt via the jetway phone. His suspension was however reduced to a letter of warning. In another case relatively recent we boarded a aircraft with a flight crew placarded MEL. The FAA showed up to flight check us. Maintenance showed up to clear the MEL and in front of the FAA guy said the item could not be flight crew placarded. As soon as maintenance left the FAA guy picked up the logbook and wrote down the flight number of the inbound flight. I left the cockpit and looked up the inbound crew and called the Captain to tell him to write a ASAP. He said MC told him they could flight crew placarded it. I told him to ASAP it anyway. The FAA is not going to take it as a excuse.
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Quote: Happened to a friend of mine when a flight attendant called in a issue with a passenger seatbelt via the jetway phone. His suspension was however reduced to a letter of warning. In another case relatively recent we boarded a aircraft with a flight crew placarded MEL. The FAA showed up to flight check us. Maintenance showed up to clear the MEL and in front of the FAA guy said the item could not be flight crew placarded. As soon as maintenance left the FAA guy picked up the logbook and wrote down the flight number of the inbound flight. I left the cockpit and looked up the inbound crew and called the Captain to tell him to write a ASAP. He said MC told him they could flight crew placarded it. I told him to ASAP it anyway. The FAA is not going to take it as a excuse.
1) I’m sorry. I won’t believe that a captain can be held responsible for something he couldn’t possibly know about. How did the letter of warning read? “Even though no one told you about a seatbelt, we’re going to give you stern warning. Next time run the cabin safety checks on top of your normal duties.”


2) The Captain should have known it was not pilot-placardable since that information is in the MEL.
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Quote: 1) I’m sorry. I won’t believe that a captain can be held responsible for something he couldn’t possibly know about. How did the letter of warning read? “Even though no one told you about a seatbelt, we’re going to give you stern warning. Next time run the cabin safety checks on top of your normal duties.”


2) The Captain should have known it was not pilot-placardable since that information is in the MEL.
Talk to me after you or your friends have a FAA issue. They once permanently revoked a Comair pilots ratings because the other pilot flunked a alcohol test. The pilot who lost his ratings had almost no interaction with the impaired pilot as he was a reserve called out at the last minute and just showed up at the aircraft and jumped in the seat.
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Quote: They once permanently revoked a Comair pilots ratings because the other pilot flunked a alcohol test. The pilot who lost his ratings had almost no interaction with the impaired pilot as he was a reserve called out at the last minute and just showed up at the aircraft and jumped in the seat.
Can any former Comair pilots confirm this?

Until then, I'm erring to the side of...total BS.
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Quote: Talk to me after you or your friends have a FAA issue. They once permanently revoked a Comair pilots ratings because the other pilot flunked a alcohol test. The pilot who lost his ratings had almost no interaction with the impaired pilot as he was a reserve called out at the last minute and just showed up at the aircraft and jumped in the seat.
That's why I always breathalyze my fellow pilot before every leg.
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Quote: 1) I’m sorry. I won’t believe that a captain can be held responsible for something he couldn’t possibly know about. How did the letter of warning read? “Even though no one told you about a seatbelt, we’re going to give you stern warning. Next time run the cabin safety checks on top of your normal duties.”


2) The Captain should have known it was not pilot-placardable since that information is in the MEL.
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