Delta Pilot Sues Delta
07-20-2021, 05:54 AM
#51
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
This. Whenever the FAs ask us to call for something, except maintenance, I ask them if they’ve tried FF.
07-20-2021, 05:55 AM
#52
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Never use it. It’s a distraction during preflight planning.
ACARS or phone calls much better. Texting can be useful, but it’s not the most efficient form of communication.
ACARS or phone calls much better. Texting can be useful, but it’s not the most efficient form of communication.
07-21-2021, 07:47 AM
#54
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I use it 100% of the time. I find it useful to ...
1) Know what's going on in the back (it can be quite entertaining, especially when everyone is trying to CYA during a delay.)
2) Notify the station (if they're using it) to disconnect air, ask for water, catering, ... without having to try to get a hold of them on the radio -- especially at JFK when "Ops" is also "Ramp Tower."
3) Ask everyone for an early departure at the same time.
4) Notify everyone that pilots will be late due to transportation issues.
5) Ask the Gate Agent to bring down RLS2, or 3, or 6 because of new notam somewhere.
I think it's one of the more useful inventions of the last few years. Especially now that more and more outstation ops are using it.
1) Know what's going on in the back (it can be quite entertaining, especially when everyone is trying to CYA during a delay.)
2) Notify the station (if they're using it) to disconnect air, ask for water, catering, ... without having to try to get a hold of them on the radio -- especially at JFK when "Ops" is also "Ramp Tower."
3) Ask everyone for an early departure at the same time.
4) Notify everyone that pilots will be late due to transportation issues.
5) Ask the Gate Agent to bring down RLS2, or 3, or 6 because of new notam somewhere.
I think it's one of the more useful inventions of the last few years. Especially now that more and more outstation ops are using it.
Last edited by GogglesPisano; 07-21-2021 at 08:03 AM.
07-21-2021, 11:50 AM
#55
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Ask everyone for an early departure at the same time.
07-21-2021, 05:07 PM
#56
Can't abide NAI
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Ah, the El Dorado of ground ops. It makes a tangibile difference maybe 5% of the time. But the lure of its modest potential is too irresistible to ignore.
"Disturbance in the tropopause caused by lunar oscillations wreaking havoc with intensive flight training over Jacksonville Center. Must depart prior."
"Need to arrive ATL OT 4 meeting with parole officer"
07-21-2021, 05:42 PM
#57
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I use it 100% of the time. I find it useful to ...
1) Know what's going on in the back (it can be quite entertaining, especially when everyone is trying to CYA during a delay.)
2) Notify the station (if they're using it) to disconnect air, ask for water, catering, ... without having to try to get a hold of them on the radio -- especially at JFK when "Ops" is also "Ramp Tower."
3) Ask everyone for an early departure at the same time.
4) Notify everyone that pilots will be late due to transportation issues.
5) Ask the Gate Agent to bring down RLS2, or 3, or 6 because of new notam somewhere.
I think it's one of the more useful inventions of the last few years. Especially now that more and more outstation ops are using it.
1) Know what's going on in the back (it can be quite entertaining, especially when everyone is trying to CYA during a delay.)
2) Notify the station (if they're using it) to disconnect air, ask for water, catering, ... without having to try to get a hold of them on the radio -- especially at JFK when "Ops" is also "Ramp Tower."
3) Ask everyone for an early departure at the same time.
4) Notify everyone that pilots will be late due to transportation issues.
5) Ask the Gate Agent to bring down RLS2, or 3, or 6 because of new notam somewhere.
I think it's one of the more useful inventions of the last few years. Especially now that more and more outstation ops are using it.
07-21-2021, 05:52 PM
#58
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Might consider briefing FA’s maintenance shall be coordinated through the Captain, not FF. Nothing like the first time you find yourself delayed for maintenance you didn’t know you had called in from the back 😑
07-21-2021, 06:43 PM
#59
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
Might consider briefing FA’s maintenance shall be coordinated through the Captain, not FF. Nothing like the first time you find yourself delayed for maintenance you didn’t know you had called in from the back 
A very good reason for somebody to at least split-screen FF in the cockpit.
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