Delta Pilot Sues Delta
07-23-2021, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Peabody17
Yes, those are all mechanical irregularities. The air carrier's maintenance system must be robust enough to address each one in the appropriate manner (MEL, CDL, NEF, etc.)
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07-23-2021, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingfiddler
Funny, my first thought was "typical southern good ol' boy grifter" guess I was wrong, but it wasn't at all a foregone conclusion...
07-23-2021, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
So if an FA discovers an mechanical discrepancy, but doesn’t inform anyone — they’ll hang the PIC. Understood. 
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07-24-2021, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
So if an FA discovers an mechanical discrepancy, but doesn’t inform anyone — they’ll hang the PIC. Understood. 🙄
07-24-2021, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Happened to a friend of mine when a flight attendant called in a issue with a passenger seatbelt via the jetway phone. His suspension was however reduced to a letter of warning. In another case relatively recent we boarded a aircraft with a flight crew placarded MEL. The FAA showed up to flight check us. Maintenance showed up to clear the MEL and in front of the FAA guy said the item could not be flight crew placarded. As soon as maintenance left the FAA guy picked up the logbook and wrote down the flight number of the inbound flight. I left the cockpit and looked up the inbound crew and called the Captain to tell him to write a ASAP. He said MC told him they could flight crew placarded it. I told him to ASAP it anyway. The FAA is not going to take it as a excuse.
2) The Captain should have known it was not pilot-placardable since that information is in the MEL.
07-24-2021, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
1) I’m sorry. I won’t believe that a captain can be held responsible for something he couldn’t possibly know about. How did the letter of warning read? “Even though no one told you about a seatbelt, we’re going to give you stern warning. Next time run the cabin safety checks on top of your normal duties.”
2) The Captain should have known it was not pilot-placardable since that information is in the MEL.
2) The Captain should have known it was not pilot-placardable since that information is in the MEL.
07-24-2021, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They once permanently revoked a Comair pilots ratings because the other pilot flunked a alcohol test. The pilot who lost his ratings had almost no interaction with the impaired pilot as he was a reserve called out at the last minute and just showed up at the aircraft and jumped in the seat.
Until then, I'm erring to the side of...total BS.
07-24-2021, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Talk to me after you or your friends have a FAA issue. They once permanently revoked a Comair pilots ratings because the other pilot flunked a alcohol test. The pilot who lost his ratings had almost no interaction with the impaired pilot as he was a reserve called out at the last minute and just showed up at the aircraft and jumped in the seat.
07-24-2021, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
1) I’m sorry. I won’t believe that a captain can be held responsible for something he couldn’t possibly know about. How did the letter of warning read? “Even though no one told you about a seatbelt, we’re going to give you stern warning. Next time run the cabin safety checks on top of your normal duties.”
2) The Captain should have known it was not pilot-placardable since that information is in the MEL.
2) The Captain should have known it was not pilot-placardable since that information is in the MEL.
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