marcal

The Winklevoss twins won 60M after Zuck simply stole the idea of Facebook. CA Alexander may get a settlement for sure if his lawyers are good. He should have hired the firm they used.

boog123

Wasn't referring to his name, but you keep being quick as always.

DeltaboundRedux

Is the complaint available online?

Mostly idle curiosity. I’d like to read it. Couldn’t find a way to access it on the Dekalb County court system.

Margaritaville

Buck Rogers

Maybe it’s the a/c we fly, but at least once a month I hear, “I lost xxx years in the merger”. You may think the animosity is gone....but it’s not. It’s just pilots being people...it’s human nature for us that aren’t quite so enlightened.

JMHO

Giordano Bruno

Is it true you're running for C44 captain rep this summer/fall?

Bucking Bar

JMO - most of wouldn't dream of writing the CEO and demanding a Christmas party, with booze, in Honolulu, or expect to sell our ideas to the company as "Mob Crew." Nor would we think to try to use the company's logo for promotional materials while we gave talks on how we thought Delta's operations and training are unsafe. When these ideas went sideways, filing a lawsuit for more than a billion dollars against Delta is just something most of us wouldn't think advisable.

It is just corporate culture. Delta has never seemed to want to have an employee provide services as a vendor, particularly in some job classifications. Delta has been victimized by employees who set up fake companies and defrauded the accounts payable department. I am in no way saying a pilot has ever done that, but the company is very concerned about employees having business relationships with Delta to the point that I'd consider it a bit paranoid. For example, a donation of about $3,500 to the Delta museum through one of my little businesses resulted in calls from the CPO and a back in forth with Delta's legal management ensuring I was not trying to even think about becoming a vendor for Delta... (and all I was doing was giving away stuff to support the Museum which is an independent entity)

I have no idea how Northwest's culture was and if that company bought things from pilots. I've just not seen it done at Delta.

We have some very sharp people who have developed IT solutions which have been adopted. After a while, it seems Delta made it harder for them to access the data they needed, or released competing products and directed employees to those products; MiCrew is an example.

GucciBoy

I’m not aware of another use of “outing” in this context, so please let me know what you meant then.

Bucking Bar

Could be off on the date. Have to look up the rotation, but this was just after the merger and before the Surface deployment. The manager was all about capturing minutes and shaving inefficiency out of the operation, as well as a way to measure recaptured minutes. His version of a flight family (and maybe it does) measured everything. What he described is very much like the current use of flight family where OCC & Tower were in the comms loop. His initials are JS.

If anything, Plaintiff's ideas probably did not get the usual pushback from Flight Operations because Flight Operations was already of the same mind.

Steve Dickson was talking about doing away with paper flight plans back then as well ... still hasn't happened.

The idea of being able to text message ops & scheduling is (was) a pretty common thought. The "idea" is not worth anything unless it is reasonably protected through copyright, patent and/or trademark. Reading through the complaint it appears Delta was beginning to protect its position through non-disclosure agreements. As a "creator" the plaintiff not only would have needed to protect himself from his client taking his product but also his developers from claiming it as their own.

Again, my friends in this space, as well as customers, investors, and anyone who watches Shark Tank know your business is worth less than nothing if the idea can be taken by someone else. This "product" is tougher than most to protect because it is really just a combination of existing ideas with an obvious solution.

boog123

We would see how short the memories are of the 44 folks and if they care about scope.