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Old 11-17-2021 | 07:12 AM
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Impressed that the new hires at United understand that they might be a captain in 6 months, but they'll be on the bottom of the reserve pool for a decade as the senior pilots continually bid above them.

Wonder if they're hiring mostly civilian track pilots who've already lived this?
My class back in June was about 50/50 MIL/Civilian. That’s the ratio that’s seemed to have stuck during our current hiring spree. There’s a really good mentor program here that I know has been helpful for all the new hires to not make bad decisions based off limited data or experience.
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Old 11-17-2021 | 09:48 AM
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Has a US major airline had unfilled captain spots before? I can’t remember any, but I haven’t been around as long as some.
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Old 11-17-2021 | 09:49 AM
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Has a US major airline had unfilled captain spots before? I can’t remember any, but I haven’t been around as long as some.
AA had it with the e190
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Old 11-17-2021 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tripled
Sometimes our ‘rest’ day is a 30-hour layover in an undesirable location
Important to note this! Used to think rolling thunder was the shiz (and it is on 15th each month!) but have gotten bitten by the 5 day with a 30 hour layover followed by a 3 or a 4 day with min rest at home. Do not like! Doubly so if you have young kids at home.
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Old 11-17-2021 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Impressed that the new hires at United understand that they might be a captain in 6 months, but they'll be on the bottom of the reserve pool for a decade as the senior pilots continually bid above them.

Wonder if they're hiring mostly civilian track pilots who've already lived this?
they won’t be a captain in 6 months. They are not eligible until off probation. Which takes a year.
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Old 11-17-2021 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
they won’t be a captain in 6 months. They are not eligible until off probation. Which takes a year.
Not saying that isn't accurate, but many airlines don't allow probationary Captains but still allow someone on probation to be awarded Captain and then be off probation to "get around" that. Not sure how UAL does it though,
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Old 11-17-2021 | 01:08 PM
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Yeah I don’t know the ins and outs of when you have to be off probation to be awarded a capt slot, but I doubt we will have anyone with 6 months operating as a capt. I could see how maybe someone around 8 months gets an award because the vacancies are 3-4 months out. But by the time they hit the line they won’t be on probation any more.
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Old 11-17-2021 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Not saying that isn't accurate, but many airlines don't allow probationary Captains but still allow someone on probation to be awarded Captain and then be off probation to "get around" that. Not sure how UAL does it though,

UA does not have that carve out like we do. Over there you have to finish probation before upgrade. You also need 500 hours at UA, regardless of previous flying experience.
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Old 11-17-2021 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
Yeah I don’t know the ins and outs of when you have to be off probation to be awarded a capt slot, but I doubt we will have anyone with 6 months operating as a capt. I could see how maybe someone around 8 months gets an award because the vacancies are 3-4 months out. But by the time they hit the line they won’t be on probation any more.
I think what gloopy was speaking to is a clause at DL. CAs can’t be on probation, at delta if you are awarded upgrade before you are off probation you are allowed to upgrade and passing upgrade training gets you off probation, even if you have not met the other requirements.
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Old 11-17-2021 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
they won’t be a captain in 6 months. They are not eligible until off probation. Which takes a year.
Apologies, and thanks for the correction. (I'm not United. Well, not until we merge into some sort of super airline when re-regulation comes back )

Should've wrote : "the most junior eligible pilots".
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