Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr

TED74 for NC Chair!

Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad

Seconded.

Filler

Originally Posted by PilotBases

I’m voting TED.

Originally Posted by TED74

There’s a quick deal to be had if the company is smart and wants to attract newbies. The same 3,500 apps are on file for all the majors aren’t enough to meet the need. We want to stand out, so people don’t leave for greener pastures 6 months after indoc…and so others will walk to us even if our offer comes second. Stress our competitors’ training pipeline for strategic and competitive advantage!

5:15 Vacation and training. 25% DC. Better deadheads, better meals. Halve the health care premiums. Shorten conversion windows, institute IQ golden days and improve reroutes. Give the RCC buckets of credit every month to enhance QOL above the optimizer solution. 15/8/5/5 pay raises with full retro and a me-too catch up provision for peer pay. Pay short call credit above guarantee and establish a minimum percentage of ULC lines in each category. Leave profit sharing unmolested. Make positive space commuting permanent. Add a week of vacation to all longevities. In exchange for all that, they can have all my buddy passes back…and attract the best of the best…and cripple AA.

TA it in January, ratify it in March and get back to the business of printing money. I’ll be the professional negotiator for one MEEEELION dollars. Cheap.

Originally Posted by gloopy

Add to that the next few dozen large RJ's to come off contract must be parked and JV language guaranteeing 50% or greater of both GBH or theatre ASM's with TEETH (any "partner" that exceeds it has proportional code stripped until they are in compliance) as well as CPI raises to per diem and wages post CBA expiration in perpituity and I'm in.

Originally Posted by gloopy

Add to that the next few dozen large RJ's to come off contract must be parked and JV language guaranteeing 50% or greater of both GBH or theatre ASM's with TEETH (any "partner" that exceeds it has proportional code stripped until they are in compliance) as well as CPI raises to per diem and wages post CBA expiration in perpituity and I'm in.

Originally Posted by Funk

You can't be serious about 50% when it's with a JV that we own as much as 49%, can you?!? 50% would be for an equal partner, and that isn't the case with any of them. We should get 50% as the baseline and then a portion of the remainder commensurate with our ownership stake. And for those that say, "what about slots, etc.?" that is for management to solve, or fork over all of the revenue to a general fund paid out to pilots the same way we do profit sharing. It should wipe out any financial incentive or gain for the company to allow flying by JVs instead of our own metal and people not commensurate with our ownership stake.

Originally Posted by gloopy

I like that approach. However we gotta walk before we can run. When AF/et-al were doing "half" which had a fake +/- window of compliance (only the bottom floor was ever relevant) and then our share still fell below that, they blamed AF for not reducing. OK, pull the code until they're in compliance. And half is half. And we need both block hours and ASM protections, both theatre (per JV) and global protections. And the next time we "partner" with an airline doing 4+ flights to our one (Virgin Australia comes to mind) we get ALL future growth until we're a flight or three a day ahead of them, then we can "share in the prosperity" of the venture.

We also need potential hub bypass protections. AM likely doesn't have the money at the moment to build up a massive 787 hub in MEX, but if they ever do, we can't just split the TX-MEX flying and give them all the MEX-all-points-global flying.

Originally Posted by Funk

"walk before we can run" sounds like accepting an unacceptable precedent that won't ever get fixed. The first problem is every pilot that doesn't understand that 50% isn't a suitable solution unless it's with an equal partner (newsflash, none of them are). The rest is a question of how to sufficiently incentivize the company to comply with the contract. I am open to ideas on how best to do that.

Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad

Still waiting on this global scope deal that EB, JL, and all have been touting. And see if it’s a s$!t sandwich. Just not a soggy one.