Contract 2022
01-09-2022 | 05:37 PM
#91
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Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 509
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From: 757/767
They are squeezing to eliminate credit based off of our CURRENT rigs and ADG. Better rigs and a 6 hour min day would just make them squeeze harder. The idea that they are already squeezing as hard as they can is total bunk. Things can absolutely get worse. This will backfire on us big time if the proper controls are not in place to keep them from doing it.
01-09-2022 | 05:41 PM
#92
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 940
Likes: 30
From: 320A
Things I would like to see
Rotation construction:
-5:30 ADG
-3:30 min day
-leg 3 for the day adds 1hr of pay
-leg 4 for the day adds 2hrs of pay (over leg 3 pay)
-All sits over 2 hours pay 1:1
-min layover 12hrs
Re route:
-EVERY flight not on your original pairing is paid above the original pairing.
-All redeyes pay double
-All rotations that touch a forced coverage (holiday) pay 200%
-All sign in's before 7am base time are limited to 8 hours duty (domestic)
Just to name a few... Haven't been SR enough to add international stuff yet maybe once I can hold 330B (outside of NYC) when I hit year 8 I'll have some more ideas. Lol
Rotation construction:
-5:30 ADG
-3:30 min day
-leg 3 for the day adds 1hr of pay
-leg 4 for the day adds 2hrs of pay (over leg 3 pay)
-All sits over 2 hours pay 1:1
-min layover 12hrs
Re route:
-EVERY flight not on your original pairing is paid above the original pairing.
-All redeyes pay double
-All rotations that touch a forced coverage (holiday) pay 200%
-All sign in's before 7am base time are limited to 8 hours duty (domestic)
Just to name a few... Haven't been SR enough to add international stuff yet maybe once I can hold 330B (outside of NYC) when I hit year 8 I'll have some more ideas. Lol
01-09-2022 | 05:44 PM
#93
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Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,558
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They are squeezing to eliminate credit based off of our CURRENT rigs and ADG. Better rigs and a 6 hour min day would just make them squeeze harder. The idea that they are already squeezing as hard as they can is total bunk. Things can absolutely get worse. This will backfire on us big time if the proper controls are not in place to keep them from doing it.
Sit rigs have already been brought up, but what about a penalty for short layovers. Let’s charge them for what makes our trips harder. Long days and short nights fatigue us, and they clearly don’t care so make it expensive. They remove the credit that avoids fatigued pilots, they pay the credit for stuff that causes fatigue.
01-09-2022 | 05:48 PM
#94
Racketeer
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 13,364
Likes: 846
From: N60.4858 W149.9327
They are squeezing to eliminate credit based off of our CURRENT rigs and ADG. Better rigs and a 6 hour min day would just make them squeeze harder. The idea that they are already squeezing as hard as they can is total bunk. Things can absolutely get worse. This will backfire on us big time if the proper controls are not in place to keep them from doing it.
01-09-2022 | 05:48 PM
#95
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Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 5,152
Likes: 130
Most folks I talk to don’t like long sits, and that to me is where we can improve qol. Min Day could have a lot of unintended consequences. Rigs to pay for extended sits seem quite a bit less volatile.
Perhaps sits of 2-3 hours pay an extra hour. Over 3 hours, pay an extra two hours. Domestic layovers over 20 hours pay 15 minutes for every hour over 20. International layovers over 48 hours pay 15 minutes for every hour over 48.
Perhaps sits of 2-3 hours pay an extra hour. Over 3 hours, pay an extra two hours. Domestic layovers over 20 hours pay 15 minutes for every hour over 20. International layovers over 48 hours pay 15 minutes for every hour over 48.
01-09-2022 | 05:58 PM
#96
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Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
Things I would like to see
Rotation construction:
-5:30 ADG
-3:30 min day
-leg 3 for the day adds 1hr of pay
-leg 4 for the day adds 2hrs of pay (over leg 3 pay)
-All sits over 2 hours pay 1:1
-min layover 12hrs
Re route:
-EVERY flight not on your original pairing is paid above the original pairing.
-All redeyes pay double
-All rotations that touch a forced coverage (holiday) pay 200%
-All sign in's before 7am base time are limited to 8 hours duty (domestic)
Just to name a few... Haven't been SR enough to add international stuff yet maybe once I can hold 330B (outside of NYC) when I hit year 8 I'll have some more ideas. Lol
Rotation construction:
-5:30 ADG
-3:30 min day
-leg 3 for the day adds 1hr of pay
-leg 4 for the day adds 2hrs of pay (over leg 3 pay)
-All sits over 2 hours pay 1:1
-min layover 12hrs
Re route:
-EVERY flight not on your original pairing is paid above the original pairing.
-All redeyes pay double
-All rotations that touch a forced coverage (holiday) pay 200%
-All sign in's before 7am base time are limited to 8 hours duty (domestic)
Just to name a few... Haven't been SR enough to add international stuff yet maybe once I can hold 330B (outside of NYC) when I hit year 8 I'll have some more ideas. Lol
01-09-2022 | 06:14 PM
#97
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Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 12,547
Likes: 1,155
Hold on. Your argument is, "you can have PS to work but we are going to make all trips not commutable?" Lol man.
01-09-2022 | 06:58 PM
#98
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 3,066
Likes: 210
Most folks I talk to don’t like long sits, and that to me is where we can improve qol. Min Day could have a lot of unintended consequences. Rigs to pay for extended sits seem quite a bit less volatile.
Perhaps sits of 2-3 hours pay an extra hour. Over 3 hours, pay an extra two hours. Domestic layovers over 20 hours pay 15 minutes for every hour over 20. International layovers over 48 hours pay 15 minutes for every hour over 48.
Perhaps sits of 2-3 hours pay an extra hour. Over 3 hours, pay an extra two hours. Domestic layovers over 20 hours pay 15 minutes for every hour over 20. International layovers over 48 hours pay 15 minutes for every hour over 48.
01-09-2022 | 07:05 PM
#99
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Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,558
Likes: 0
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