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Old 01-09-2022 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Paying pilots for duty hours addresses a number of complaints:
-Pay for airport sits
-Pay for preflight
-Pay for ground delays

It could be implemented as a supplement to block hour pay or a replacement for block hour pay. I'll stay away from rate and costing proposals and stick to math problems I have a chance at solving like inflation and tax rates.
I think somewhere in there is also a good incentive that ought to be adopted to help out with the pilots that end up doing the four or five short legs in a day, blocking ADG, but working an additional five or six hours because of turns.
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Old 01-09-2022 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Funk
Then watch them schedule 3:59 before your last leg of the day or your go home leg. Congrats, they have you available for reroute nonsense for an additional three hours at no cost to the company.

They can reassign you outside your original footprint in domicile before your last flight assignment?
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Old 01-09-2022 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
They can reassign you outside your original footprint in domicile before your last flight assignment?
No. “Tag on” flying is not permitted.
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Old 01-09-2022 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
No. “Tag on” flying is not permitted.
REG no, but for RES, tag on flying is 100% permitted.
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Old 01-09-2022 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
Requiring hotels for anything scheduled/ and or actual more than a 4 hr sit helps with that. Your not contactable.
you are never contactable on a sit
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Old 01-09-2022 | 11:52 AM
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A 6 hour hard min day with no accompanying control and/or rules governing rotation construction would completely obliterate any remaining trip QOL on the domestic side of the house. That is a recipe for disaster. The regionals that have min day have much lower values, usually around 4 hours. That makes the comparison questionable at best.
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Old 01-09-2022 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
you are never contactable on a sit

That’s helpful. In that case credit definitely makes more sense.
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Old 01-09-2022 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Drum
Our union strongly disagree with you on this one pal.

But hey you want to help the kompany out, go for it. They'll continue to take advantage of us with your type of mindset. Scariest part is you get a vote too😳😳
Im with the union on most everything. On this I believe we are wrong.

Calling out sick on a trip because you scheduled a booster shot that is easily scheduled pretty much anywhere and anytime is purely our union encouraging us to overreach.

Professionals pilots know what the alcohol limits are and accordingly drink alcohol outside of those limits. In this situation we know what the limits are in terms of booster shots and that should be scheduled as well outside of those limits.

Now, if you get a booster shot during a stretch of off days and for some reason you have a reaction that goes into a flight then of course call off.

But I do not agree that you should be able to schedule a booster shot Over a trip. It’s one thing if your symptoms go into another one beyond 48 hours but the schedule of booster purposely on top of the trip in my opinion is an overreach.

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Old 01-09-2022 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by marcal
if we can’t be reasonable on silly stuff like this they won’t be reasonable on the big stuff. Yes and I’m aware that perhaps “they started” but calling out sick on a trip because you scheduled a booster shot is purely our union encouraging us to overreach.

Once they're reasonable on silly stuff like following the contract, I think guys will more inclined to be reasonable on small stuff like this.
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Old 01-09-2022 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Once they're reasonable on silly stuff like following the contract, I think guys will more inclined to be reasonable on small stuff like this.
That’s so funny I actually think the exact opposite.

Now, but I do think is absolute BS are the completely arbitrary changes to the NFLY status currently. They are arbitrarily reducing the number of NFLY days and requiring additional testing to remain on NFLY completely outside of the LOA. That’s a problem.
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