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Old 06-17-2022 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Negotiations are done via term sheets. We exchange term sheets and each side takes time to review them and run them by their experts. In our case we have both pilots and attorneys going over items plus the E&FA team costing them out. Meeting every other week is a fast pace and allows for due diligence. There is no one at a big round table pounding out a contract.
I get all that. Your therapy always appreciated!
Tempo is unsat in my book. They could get it done faster if they really wanted to.

“I know that reaching an agreement is the most important thing to you, and we will keep pushing hard to get there…” sounds very artificial.
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Old 06-17-2022 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
I get all that. Your therapy always appreciated!
Tempo is unsat in my book. They could get it done faster if they really wanted to.

“I know that reaching an agreement is the most important thing to you, and we will keep pushing hard to get there…” sounds very artificial.
Everything JL says is artificial. Ill be happy to see that clown take his circus and get shown the door.
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Old 06-17-2022 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
Everything JL says is artificial.
That's.... so fitting. That's a great word to describe him. Artificial.
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Old 06-17-2022 | 10:06 AM
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I did find it interesting that they met last week and then this week too vs. every other week as previous...Curious if thats a positive or not...

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Old 06-17-2022 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
That's.... so fitting. That's a great word to describe him. Artificial.
"I remain deeply appreciative of our Delta pilots and everything you do to take care of your colleagues and our customers every single day." JL

I guess someone finally got through to him that we are sick and tired of the phrase 'Thank you for all you do'... Oh, wait, That's exactly what the above sentence says...
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Old 06-17-2022 | 10:28 AM
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According to a letter put out by our union this week you should probably not expect a deal anytime soon. They say that the company comes to the negotiating sessions “poorly prepared, propose unreasonable positions, and seem confused about what constitutes good-faith bargaining.”

All while JL says he wants a deal done quickly. At least they secretly gave themselves bonuses of $250,000. I hope they all sleep well.
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Old 06-17-2022 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Negotiations are done via term sheets. We exchange term sheets and each side takes time to review them and run them by their experts. In our case we have both pilots and attorneys going over items plus the E&FA team costing them out. Meeting every other week is a fast pace and allows for due diligence. There is no one at a big round table pounding out a contract.

American Airlines says it will hike pay for 14,000 pilots even higher than originally proposed, as the industry faces a crippling labor shortage.

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Old 06-17-2022 | 03:16 PM
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at this point, we're hosed. The company will take its chances and burn this place to the ground.
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Old 06-17-2022 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Crown
at this point, we're hosed. The company will take its chances and burn this place to the ground.

Unfortunately I think you’re correct.

During the RA days people used to say the company was paying chess and ALPA was playing checkers.

Now I fear that ALPA is playing checkers but the company is playing Tic-Tac-Toe and they’re too busy eating all the crayons.

Everything since late 2018 has seemed woefully shortsighted and execution has been with minimal to no planning. I remember pre-COVID that the ALPA NC was pretty much spending time teaching the contract to the company negotiators instead of actually negotiating. Such a shame.
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Old 06-17-2022 | 05:01 PM
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The board is going to need to figure out if they're with bastion on all this bs. There are other people that can be a CEO.
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