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Old 11-08-2025 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Do OOBWS run 2 days prior during the regular PCS runs?

Thanks Scoop
Easy way to remember it:

Anything outside of 2 days is automated PCS: WS, SS, PD, APD, IVD, VAS, recovery slips, X-day, SwP (NOT A PROFFER, system assumes that you are watching what you do).
This is the "auto PCS" and is run entirely by the computer. No scheduler looks at or touches it. You can see the sequence "auto" PCS operates in 23 E.2. When you hear "runs in PCS" it almost always means the "prior to 2nd day" automatic PCS functions. This is the system that runs 4 times a day at set times.

Anything inside of 2 days* is manual coverage and is mostly done on a proffer basis. You put your requests in PCS (makes that nice and confusing), but they are handled by Crew Scheduling. Follows 23 N & O ladders. The only time the coverage ladders come into play is 2nd day, next day, same day. When you hear the phrase "trip coverage" or "rotation coverage" it is almost always talking about the 23 M. (think M for manual) manual trip coverage sequence. Filling of trips during this period effectively happens when it happens.

*You can check a box to be included on the 0700 run on 2nd day.

*Leave type auto PCS (APD, PD, etc) as well as SwtP continues to run inside 2nd day.

Pilot to Pilot Swap for rotations and X days is completely automated. No scheduler looks at it. Executed instantly. Run by a completely different system.

Jetway trades are semi-manually handled by CS.

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Old 11-10-2025 | 07:07 AM
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If cs call you before the start of a shortcall by 3 hours is that breaking rest?
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Old 11-10-2025 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
If cs call you before the start of a shortcall by 3 hours is that breaking rest?
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If you determine it did yes. They are allowed one contact which by itself doesn't break rest, but if you say/feel it did, its your call.

Basically if contacted within 10 hours of assignment/sc or in a 30 hour, they get a freebee but if you say it interrupted rest, it did. They know that is a risk when they attempt one call.
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Old 11-10-2025 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Easy way to remember it:

Anything outside of 2 days is automated PCS: WS, SS, PD, APD, IVD, VAS, recovery slips, X-day, SwP (NOT A PROFFER, system assumes that you are watching what you do).
This is the "auto PCS" and is run entirely by the computer. No scheduler looks at or touches it. You can see the sequence "auto" PCS operates in 23 E.2. When you hear "runs in PCS" it almost always means the "prior to 2nd day" automatic PCS functions. This is the system that runs 4 times a day at set times.

Anything inside of 2 days* is manual coverage and is mostly done on a proffer basis. You put your requests in PCS (makes that nice and confusing), but they are handled by Crew Scheduling. Follows 23 N & O ladders. The only time the coverage ladders come into play is 2nd day, next day, same day. When you hear the phrase "trip coverage" or "rotation coverage" it is almost always talking about the 23 M. (think M for manual) manual trip coverage sequence. Filling of trips during this period effectively happens when it happens.

*You can check a box to be included on the 0700 run on 2nd day.

*Leave type auto PCS (APD, PD, etc) as well as SwtP continues to run inside 2nd day.

Pilot to Pilot Swap for rotations and X days is completely automated. No scheduler looks at it. Executed instantly. Run by a completely different system.

Jetway trades are semi-manually handled by CS.
This is a really good cliffs-notes breakdown of the process(es). Kudos.
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Old 11-13-2025 | 05:39 AM
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Quick question for the PWA brain trust here....Had a maintenance issue that delayed the flight 22 hours. We tripped the 19.5 hour gate, load control can't issue an WDR with the original flight number beyond that so they changed the flight number for our original flight, now delayed 23 hours. I see in MiCrew they annotated a "pay ADJ" on that trip, but its been over 14 business days and nothing is reflecting on my time card. Is this technically a re-route? I can't seem to find it. TYIA.
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Old 11-13-2025 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Quick question for the PWA brain trust here....Had a maintenance issue that delayed the flight 22 hours. We tripped the 19.5 hour gate, load control can't issue an WDR with the original flight number beyond that so they changed the flight number for our original flight, now delayed 23 hours. I see in MiCrew they annotated a "pay ADJ" on that trip, but its been over 14 business days and nothing is reflecting on my time card. Is this technically a re-route? I can't seem to find it. TYIA.
There is no reroute pay due for delayed operations even with a flight number change
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Old 11-13-2025 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
There is no reroute pay due for delayed operations even with a flight number change
Gotcha, then what is the "Pay ADJ" thing on the rotation in MiCrew??
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Old 11-13-2025 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Gotcha, then what is the "Pay ADJ" thing on the rotation in MiCrew??
No idea? Maybe they opened the case to give you reroute pay when the flight number changed and then realized it wasn't a reroute?
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Old 11-13-2025 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Gotcha, then what is the "Pay ADJ" thing on the rotation in MiCrew??
So there’s a pay adj showing in MiCrew but not on your time card?
Those 2 normally correlate, with a pay adj line on your time card.
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Old 11-13-2025 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
So there’s a pay adj showing in MiCrew but not on your time card?
Those 2 normally correlate, with a pay adj line on your time card.
Correct. It's been well over 14 business days too. "Pay ADJ" still showing on MiCrew as well. Just checked it.
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