Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
11-16-2025 | 04:52 AM
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Deadhead question about this provision:
PWA 8. D. 3. A pilot who is scheduled to deadhead at the end of a rotation will be booked on flight(s) scheduled to return the pilot to their base as soon as possible.
I have a 0XXX trip built by CS. The last day is a DHD only day. I was looking to see if there was an earlier flight and there are actually 2 earlier DLs (mainline and RJ). If I take the next earlier flight it still provides over 10h of rest.
Because the rotation as built doesn't get me back as soon as possible is it an illegal rotation? Or am I missing something that could possibly make it a legal rotation?
PWA 8. D. 3. A pilot who is scheduled to deadhead at the end of a rotation will be booked on flight(s) scheduled to return the pilot to their base as soon as possible.
I have a 0XXX trip built by CS. The last day is a DHD only day. I was looking to see if there was an earlier flight and there are actually 2 earlier DLs (mainline and RJ). If I take the next earlier flight it still provides over 10h of rest.
Because the rotation as built doesn't get me back as soon as possible is it an illegal rotation? Or am I missing something that could possibly make it a legal rotation?
11-16-2025 | 05:53 AM
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Deadhead question about this provision:
PWA 8. D. 3. A pilot who is scheduled to deadhead at the end of a rotation will be booked on flight(s) scheduled to return the pilot to their base as soon as possible.
I have a 0XXX trip built by CS. The last day is a DHD only day. I was looking to see if there was an earlier flight and there are actually 2 earlier DLs (mainline and RJ). If I take the next earlier flight it still provides over 10h of rest.
Because the rotation as built doesn't get me back as soon as possible is it an illegal rotation? Or am I missing something that could possibly make it a legal rotation?
If I call CS are they going to just "fix the glitch" and call it good?
Does this fall under the "errors and omissions" part of the PWA?
TIA
PWA 8. D. 3. A pilot who is scheduled to deadhead at the end of a rotation will be booked on flight(s) scheduled to return the pilot to their base as soon as possible.
I have a 0XXX trip built by CS. The last day is a DHD only day. I was looking to see if there was an earlier flight and there are actually 2 earlier DLs (mainline and RJ). If I take the next earlier flight it still provides over 10h of rest.
Because the rotation as built doesn't get me back as soon as possible is it an illegal rotation? Or am I missing something that could possibly make it a legal rotation?
If I call CS are they going to just "fix the glitch" and call it good?
Does this fall under the "errors and omissions" part of the PWA?
TIA
Are they all non stops or do they have connections? IIRC the times that matter are the arrival times back at your base - not the departure times.
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11-16-2025 | 06:12 PM
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If you call them more than 2 hours prior to sign in, they should no op rotation, pay you single pay, and you’ll have no recovery obligation. If they don’t drop it, you’ll get double pay for what you fly, and single pay. If you let them know less than 2 hours prior to sign in, I believe you get a couple hours added to time card and have to fly it.
I always call and take the no op option.
I always call and take the no op option.
11-16-2025 | 08:24 PM
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If you call them more than 2 hours prior to sign in, they should no op rotation, pay you single pay, and you’ll have no recovery obligation. If they don’t drop it, you’ll get double pay for what you fly, and single pay. If you let them know less than 2 hours prior to sign in, I believe you get a couple hours added to time card and have to fly it.
I always call and take the no op option.
I always call and take the no op option.
11-17-2025 | 08:52 AM
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REG: if they do drop it, they pay protected with zero recovery obligation....free to pick up WS or GS or IA or QS or PSB if you so desire.
RESL no rotation guarantee so no soup for you....go back on LC.
11-17-2025 | 01:35 PM
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