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7ER as an FO, international wasn't for me. I couldn't sleep on the plane and never adjusted to the timezone sleep disruption. I did it for several years to check the box, test my tolerance, and see the sights and don't regret it. I learned I am happier doing 1 or 2 leg domestic days with some Caribbean/Mexico/Central American layovers in the winter and mountain or coastal layovers in the summer. I am completely satisfied as an NBA. I enjoy exploring the world on my time off with weeks in a distant time zone to adjust.Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Did you never try WB or you did and just decided it wasn't for you so you came back to NB?
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#Juniority
Reminds me of the old saying…. The only problem with green slips is you actually have to go fly them. Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Well duh, that's why I'm swimming in IA's#Juniority
Which makes 23m7 far superior even if it’s just single pay.
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He doesn't have the awareness to realize he's just a meme to everyone else.Originally Posted by Meme In Command
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Which makes 23m7 far superior even if it’s just single pay.
23m7 is great but its temporary. Its one of the things that unexpectedly come along and if your in the right place at the right time you can make a killing, but alas they are transient. Other examples include A350 Pilots during the rollout - non stop GSWC due to numerous management blunders. Any WB Pilot during Covid - paid to sit at home for months and months. Probably others over the years but these two stand out being relatively recent. Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
Reminds me of the old saying…. The only problem with green slips is you actually have to go fly them.Which makes 23m7 far superior even if it’s just single pay.
Get em while you can because they won't last.
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Get em while you can because they won't last.
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Salient point Scoop. Thus all the more reason NOT to flip our contract around over this. This stuff comes and goes and sometimes, it's just a flash in the pan.Originally Posted by Scoop
23m7 is great but its temporary. Its one of the things that unexpectedly come along and if your in the right place at the right time you can make a killing, but alas they are transient. Other examples include A350 Pilots during the rollout - non stop GSWC due to numerous management blunders. Any WB Pilot during Covid - paid to sit at home for months and months. Probably others over the years but these two stand out being relatively recent. Get em while you can because they won't last.
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Lookback suspension began November 1st, which coincided with the start of the worst flu season in 25 years. Sick calls have surged everywhere, not only at Delta, due to the severity of this cold / flu season.
Management appears to be clueless that correlation does not imply causation. But if that gets us QS faster, so be it.
I don't think you really believe a single syllable of what you just posted. "The worst flu season" (true by the way) just happens to explain all the surge in sick calls? Good luck trying to claim that to some neutral mediator if such a thing ever came about.Originally Posted by ancman
Anyone who is undeterred by GFB is equally undeterred by lookback. The difference is paying a $40 telehealth copay, and nothing more. Nobody who is calling out of a trip that pays $5000+ is deterred by a $40 fee.Lookback suspension began November 1st, which coincided with the start of the worst flu season in 25 years. Sick calls have surged everywhere, not only at Delta, due to the severity of this cold / flu season.
Management appears to be clueless that correlation does not imply causation. But if that gets us QS faster, so be it.
Pilots tend to call in sick more when there isn't a disincentive, and we call in less when there is.
Example (I've been here awhile). After BK and all that mess, we negotiated huge concessions, to include a major change to our sick policy. It was a complex system and no one really understood it. But as my rep explained to me it ended up like this.
1. If you only called in sick once or twice a year, you would notice no change.
2. If you had a significant illness, injury, etc that had you out for weeks or more, you would indeed take a pay hit, but even that could be made up with a "rapid recharge" or some such slogan.
3. If you were the kind of pilot who called in sick once every month or two just because (insert reason), you would see a very big hit to your earnings.
Guess what? Sick leave declined a lot.
The system thankfully didn't last that long. Profitability returned, and a couple of years later, our negotiators wisely negotiated a return to, and even improvements to, our original sick leave system that we enjoy today.
"Shockingly" sick leave went right back to where it had been, traditionally.
"Flu season?" Please.
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Pilots tend to call in sick more when there isn't a disincentive, and we call in less when there is.
Example (I've been here awhile). After BK and all that mess, we negotiated huge concessions, to include a major change to our sick policy. It was a complex system and no one really understood it. But as my rep explained to me it ended up like this.
1. If you only called in sick once or twice a year, you would notice no change.
2. If you had a significant illness, injury, etc that had you out for weeks or more, you would indeed take a pay hit, but even that could be made up with a "rapid recharge" or some such slogan.
3. If you were the kind of pilot who called in sick once every month or two just because (insert reason), you would see a very big hit to your earnings.
Guess what? Sick leave declined a lot.
The system thankfully didn't last that long. Profitability returned, and a couple of years later, our negotiators wisely negotiated a return to, and even improvements to, our original sick leave system that we enjoy today.
"Shockingly" sick leave went right back to where it had been, traditionally.
"Flu season?" Please.
Just as a data point, I was sick for two full weeks in January. It was rough....and had nothing to do with anything going on at Delta Air Lines. And I'm one of those people that genuinely sick (beyond a cold or something) once every 5 or 6 years.Originally Posted by Herkflyr
I don't think you really believe a single syllable of what you just posted. "The worst flu season" (true by the way) just happens to explain all the surge in sick calls? Good luck trying to claim that to some neutral mediator if such a thing ever came about.Pilots tend to call in sick more when there isn't a disincentive, and we call in less when there is.
Example (I've been here awhile). After BK and all that mess, we negotiated huge concessions, to include a major change to our sick policy. It was a complex system and no one really understood it. But as my rep explained to me it ended up like this.
1. If you only called in sick once or twice a year, you would notice no change.
2. If you had a significant illness, injury, etc that had you out for weeks or more, you would indeed take a pay hit, but even that could be made up with a "rapid recharge" or some such slogan.
3. If you were the kind of pilot who called in sick once every month or two just because (insert reason), you would see a very big hit to your earnings.
Guess what? Sick leave declined a lot.
The system thankfully didn't last that long. Profitability returned, and a couple of years later, our negotiators wisely negotiated a return to, and even improvements to, our original sick leave system that we enjoy today.
"Shockingly" sick leave went right back to where it had been, traditionally.
"Flu season?" Please.
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11 days for me. Sadly I didn't get to use sick leave. I did get to reject 3 GS that went junior though.Originally Posted by SVCTA
Just as a data point, I was sick for two full weeks in January. It was rough....and had nothing to do with anything going on at Delta Air Lines. And I'm one of those people that genuinely sick (beyond a cold or something) once every 5 or 6 years.
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
"The worst flu season" (true by the way) just happens to explain all the surge in sick calls?
It certainly didn't help. Do you have the data on the "big increase?" Who's to say that the increase isn't due to people not being worried about a GFB. People who otherwise would have just went to work, you know, "it's just allergies..."
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