m3113n1a1

Your backup doesn't have to be a delta flight (as long as there's two hours between flights..which is a ridiculous amount of time imho), but if you want positive space then it does have to be a delta or delta connection flight.

Planetrain

The schedule is on the flight ops home page 2024 vacation article . Jan 12 results for primary.

CBreezy

Often confused. The FOM policy requires a Delta back up IF they are going to buy you a seat on the flight before work. The PWA policy affords them the ability to drop your trip completely, partially and a myriad of other things but neither have to be Delta

sailingfun

Or far more likely they would not agree to do that just as they would not agree to positive space for commuters.

sailingfun

We had a chance to show the company that we did not need a backup flight or the two hour requirement. Sadly we could not put on our big boy pants and use some common sense getting to work when we had the near perfect policy. The company went back to what works. Hard to blame them.

CBreezy

This is a ridiculous argument. Were there a few instances where pilots irresponsibly commuted? Yes. A lot of it was during the Jax center meltdowns and Delta staffing meltdowns. I'd argue there would have been commuting issues there regardless.

That is completely irrelevant to requiring a 2 hour time between flights. That wasn't tested. In fact, the UTC policy doesn't "require" 2 hours (some CPOs argue it does) and many, many pilots have made it to work just fine using that policy. And that Florida meltdown month is a small blip in what was otherwise an incredibly reliable method of commuting. Sure, I'm sure some CPO would site incomplete data to defend their unwillingness to change it post sunset. The fact is, during the most operationally disruptive period in our history, there was only marginal operational disruption caused by commuters.

Whoopsmybad

The biggest abuse and “irresponsible” commuting practices were by FAs (and I do have some second hand knowledge in all this). And you know that if we get something they are going to give it to the FAs, which they absolutely didn’t want to do.
Although a by-product of this is probably why they are having to test out their virtual bases…

iaflyer

Yup. I flew with one who told me she used PS twice a day.. every day she flew. She would PS from her local airport to ATL, fly a standup overnight, then PS back home (short flights), sleep at home. Do the same things that night, do it again. Rinse.. repeat.

Now an outlier for sure, but I can easily see some who might PS out of NYC/BOS to a smaller city to get a inexpensive hotel room, then PS back in the morning for their next trip or A day.

CBreezy

The lack of guardrails and lack of common sense was definitely a problem. I had to cover for two or three guys whose commute in arrived at or after show time. They just hoped they'd be early. They were certainly outliers though.

FangsF15

One guy poops his pants, we all have to wear diapers. That's how it (stupidly) works.