Originally Posted by cornbeef007 (Post 3436469)

Yeah…I wonder if Virgin Australia is kicking themselves because we opened the floodgate and added that extra Sydney 3 times a week. I don’t think United is touching us on Australian capacity going forward.

Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3436543)

source please?

Originally Posted by cornbeef007 (Post 3436469)

Yeah…I wonder if Virgin Australia is kicking themselves because we opened the floodgate and added that extra Sydney 3 times a week. I don’t think United is touching us on Australian capacity going forward.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3436646)

That's only because VAus almost collapsed during all the "lockdown" nonsense and became a domestic only 737 operation. That would have been the perfect time to "invest" in them as a robust domestic and regional NB network to "feed" our TP flights. But instead we whistled past the gates because the real perceived value was always and only in foreign pilots/crews doing long haul flights and in the meantime someone else gobbled them up and we were forced to "invest" in a much less robust ULCC domestic network there.

Yes we added 3 weekly flights and that's cool. But VAus was doing far more than we were prior to "lockdown" and our potential over-emphasis on "global scope" will allow our next WB partner there to take those 3 extra flights back and get all the subsequent growth and it'll be "balanced" by whatever other growth the company was planning elsewhere anyway.

Originally Posted by cornbeef007 (Post 3436717)

Exactly, that was my point. I’m an Aussie, so somewhat biased:)

We had a perfect excuse to expand but UAL seems to be doing pretty good in our absence. November 16th 2022.

IAH-SYD
LAX-SYD
SFO-SYD

LAX-MEL
SFO-MEL

SFO-BNE

What the heck, it’s close enough…

SFO-AKL

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3436646)

That's only because VAus almost collapsed during all the "lockdown" nonsense and became a domestic only 737 operation. That would have been the perfect time to "invest" in them as a robust domestic and regional NB network to "feed" our TP flights. But instead we whistled past the gates because the real perceived value was always and only in foreign pilots/crews doing long haul flights and in the meantime someone else gobbled them up and we were forced to "invest" in a much less robust ULCC domestic network there.

Yes we added 3 weekly flights and that's cool. But VAus was doing far more than we were prior to "lockdown" and our potential over-emphasis on "global scope" will allow our next WB partner there to take those 3 extra flights back and get all the subsequent growth and it'll be "balanced" by whatever other growth the company was planning elsewhere anyway.

Originally Posted by dragon (Post 3436561)

Good points but even if you are sniping the system will keep trying to put trips on your line until it hits the threshold. So as another poster said, you could end up with a carryout trip that only has say 2 hours in the current bid period but 19 or more in the next or in June's case has 1 day in June and makes you work on July 4th.

Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3436766)

I wasn't clear in what I meant by sniping, I'm talking a bid like the one below. In this case, as long as you get in the LCW with these three pairings, PBS will not (can not) continue to try and put trips on your line to get you above the threshold. It will not deny you a line just to get you above the threshold. The bid works best for senior pilots, but I think the poster said he was top 25%, so it's certainly an option.

1. Award pairing #1111 departing on 1Jul
2. Award pairing #2222 departing on 12Jul
3. Award pairing #3333 departing on 20Jul
Clear Schedule Start Next

Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3436871)

Pro tip: don’t let this type of bid be your last bid group unless you’re bidding #1! The system generated “award pairings” when one of those three trips isn’t available would sting pretty bad.

Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3436871)

Pro tip: don’t let this type of bid be your last bid group unless you’re bidding #1! The system generated “award pairings” when one of those three trips isn’t available would sting pretty bad.

Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 3436883)

It won't allow start next in your last bid group