why would any of this be different with DPA?

 

look at APA and you will see a lot of the same, but worse.

 

not Necessarily DPA, although DPA might work. While there us strength in size, I believe ALPA has exceeded its useful size. Our wagon, whether we like it or not is tied to National. If we have a national presence and Uniteds ALPA brings a POS like they have to the pilots, that impacts us, true it would impact us if APA did this as well, but the utter lack of cross talk is concerning. I am aware of what national does, but is it really worth the 10s of millions we lose to them every year??? Does our union work for us, or national. I personally would enjoy a union focused entirely on us. With a spine to actually call out the leadership. Although I will admit the BOD letter was a good start. I would like to see a wholesale re-write of the by laws and administration of DALPA. Something akin to disincentivising life long representatives vies a vie how our congress has become a static echo chamber of career politicians.

 

Yeah sure because the "pro labor" admin is going to shaft millions of fare paying vacation going working families for a statistically insignificant number of quarter million+ a year airline pilots with half the month off.

Fully loaded Escalade a month with a Miata for every day of the week signing bonus. Labor clearly has all the leverage to write their own contracts, which is why one labor group settled for an inflationary pay cut. Totally makes sense now.

 

You can have our guys - they need to go

 

Not what he's saying at all. What's going on at UAL has to do with National ALPA politics. It's an election year, and the gears are turning.

 

Although I’ve not been here long enough to have seen firsthand all of the deficiencies of previous and current contracts, I understand your gripes.

As to the above, I concur fully. However I’m not convinced that either ALPA or DPA or any other organization is any better than any of the others. The problem is the PEOPLE. The PEOPLE who comprise the LECs, MECs, and NCs need to be held accountable for their actions.

But, just like how heads of corporations will never be held accountable for THEIR actions or inactions, I don’t have much faith that we will do any better policing our own traitors, because we currently don’t. The fact that we have former union officers now working as airline management and working against us is appalling. I understand the difficulties of trying to ensure former union leaders don’t work for management in the future, and I wish there were a way we could enforce it. Those people are scumbags and they should be kicked out of the union.

 

I’ve always thought we should make volunteering for alpa should be a better deal. Forcing them to basically work two jobs and promise not to try to make more $ will only lead to people with questionable motivations (managements, politics etc…) or people who just want to game the system. Money talks, why shouldn’t a rep be paid for his/her service?

 

The hardest working pilots I have ever seen at Delta are ALPA reps. I may disagree with them on issues but never have I questioned that they work their asses off.

 

Some even work on their own consulting company (while getting full time FPL from national) , billed UAL ALPA 250k for their “services”, got sued by CAL ALPA. Different kind of “working their ass off”